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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 3298854" data-attributes="member: 29252">No lo contendre.I did not say that Study was a defined term.&nbsp; In fact, one of the things I said was:However, &quot;study&quot; is used consistently with the Sorcerer, and consistently not used with the Wizard or with the Divine casting classes (who get the word research, used consistently, when used at all).[meaningless lexical rant]Such a misused word, logical.&nbsp; &quot;...seems to make sense...&quot; - lexically accurate.&quot;...seems reasonable to...&quot; - perfectly good.&quot;...seems logical to...&quot; - misuse of the word.When you're actually doing something logically, you either end up with a proof (such as for the Pathagorean Theorm) that proves the thing for a particular set of cases, a contradiction (otherwise known as a disproof), or a map to what you still need to make one or the other.&nbsp; If A -&gt; B and B -&gt; C, Logically, A -&gt; C.&nbsp; If B -&gt; C and B -&gt; A, logically, given C, there's no necessity for A (although with B &lt;-&gt; C and B -&gt; A, C -&gt; A is logically valid).&nbsp; [/meaningless lexical rant]Not really.&nbsp; With a quirk of the scroll creation rules, you can make an Arcane scroll of Reincarnate (Wizard supplies the Scribe Scroll feat, Druid supplies the Reincarnate, they agree that the Wizard is the creator of the scroll, and he pays the XP - RAW, you've got an arcane scroll of Reincarenate, normally only useable via UMD).&nbsp; Dragons cast Arcane spells too; and....(Emphasis added).&nbsp; Which, incidentally, includes ALL the metallic dragons listed in the SRD.&nbsp; You can get an arcane scroll of ANY spell that can be cast, if you work at it a little (cheaper and faster than research, for most cases, too... but it costs a little XP).I didn't say it was conclusive.&nbsp; I didn't say there was a defined seperate system.&nbsp; Here's an excersize for you:You don't see a reason to read the differences in a particular manner.&nbsp; Can you see how someone else could?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 3298854, member: 29252"] [i]No lo contendre[/i]. I did not say that Study was a defined term. In fact, one of the things I said was: However, "study" is used consistently with the Sorcerer, and consistently not used with the Wizard or with the Divine casting classes (who get the word research, used consistently, when used at all). [meaningless lexical rant] Such a misused word, logical. "...seems to make sense..." - lexically accurate. "...seems reasonable to..." - perfectly good. "...seems logical to..." - misuse of the word. When you're actually doing something logically, you either end up with a proof (such as for the Pathagorean Theorm) that proves the thing for a particular set of cases, a contradiction (otherwise known as a disproof), or a map to what you still need to make one or the other. If A -> B and B -> C, Logically, A -> C. If B -> C and B -> A, logically, given C, there's no necessity for A (although with B [b]<[/b]-> C and B -> A, C -> A is logically valid). [/meaningless lexical rant] Not really. With a quirk of the scroll creation rules, you can make an Arcane scroll of Reincarnate (Wizard supplies the Scribe Scroll feat, Druid supplies the Reincarnate, they agree that the Wizard is the creator of the scroll, and he pays the XP - RAW, you've got an arcane scroll of Reincarenate, normally only useable via UMD). Dragons cast Arcane spells too; and.... ([u]Emphasis[/u] added). Which, incidentally, includes ALL the metallic dragons listed in the SRD. You can get an arcane scroll of ANY spell that can be cast, if you work at it a little (cheaper and faster than research, for most cases, too... but it costs a little XP). I didn't say it was conclusive. I didn't say there was a defined seperate system. Here's an excersize for you: You don't see a reason to read the differences in a particular manner. Can you see how someone else could? [/QUOTE]

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