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<blockquote data-quote="Cutty Sark" data-source="post: 3300763" data-attributes="member: 4643">I only see &quot;study&quot; used once with the sorcerer. I don't see it in chapter 10 of the PHB or chapter 2 of the DMG. By including the bard in the section on page 179, but not using &quot;study&quot; in the bard's class description, the use of study is inconsistent.Can you understand my reluctance to accept a ruling based on a term that is not defined and the lack of a separate system in the rules?This is a line of reasoning I would buy. If the rules say a sorcerer can learn a spell from an arcane scroll in place of one from the class list, and a spell from the cleric list is on arcane scroll, then the sorcerer can learn that spell. But I don't see why it would be reasonable to reach the same conclusion by saying, &quot;if the rules say a sorcerer draws primarily on the wizard/sorcerer spell list, and the sorcerer can gain unusual spells through study, then the sorcerer can learn spells from the cleric list.&quot; I can see how you read the rules that way, but I can't see a clear line from that reading to your conclusion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cutty Sark, post: 3300763, member: 4643"] I only see "study" used once with the sorcerer. I don't see it in chapter 10 of the PHB or chapter 2 of the DMG. By including the bard in the section on page 179, but not using "study" in the bard's class description, the use of study is inconsistent. Can you understand my reluctance to accept a ruling based on a term that is not defined and the lack of a separate system in the rules? This is a line of reasoning I would buy. If the rules say a sorcerer can learn a spell from an arcane scroll in place of one from the class list, and a spell from the cleric list is on arcane scroll, then the sorcerer can learn that spell. But I don't see why it would be reasonable to reach the same conclusion by saying, "if the rules say a sorcerer draws primarily on the wizard/sorcerer spell list, and the sorcerer can gain unusual spells through study, then the sorcerer can learn spells from the cleric list." I can see how you read the rules that way, but I can't see a clear line from that reading to your conclusion. [/QUOTE]

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