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<blockquote data-quote="feydras" data-source="post: 1630411" data-attributes="member: 16038">For any change there will always be a certain percentage of people who reflexively reject it.&nbsp; They are called in social psychology neophobes.&nbsp; I am not trying to be insultive with this observation, but instead simply trying to put the discussion into perspective.As an admitted neophile (the just as reactionary opposite of neophobe) i really enjoyed the changes in 3.5.&nbsp; I think the class changes to ranger, monk, druid and bard were absolutely necessary to balance the game.&nbsp; These changes, along with the others, were made directly as a result of the 3+yrs of playtesting by hordes of D&amp;D fans.&nbsp; I don't agree with all the changes myself, the worst IMO are the size/spaces rules.&nbsp; These seem to be specifically changed to make the game more in line with the D&amp;D miniatures game which i never intend to play.&nbsp; I think the majority of the changes were well done and streamlined, clarified or just plain fixed subtle or glaring oversights in the original 3.0 design.I can certainly appreciate players and DMs not wanting to shell out the bucks to update.&nbsp; But i think the posting of the SRD addresses this pretty fairly.&nbsp; What i don't understand is the anger towards WOTC for publishing material intending to improve the game.&nbsp; Sure they make a whole hell of a lot of money in the process, but the game is fine-tuned, sort of like a patch to a computer game.&nbsp; I know, i know, patches are free but so is the SRD.&nbsp; Finally, you don't have to update at all if you don't want to as you're all aware of or this thread wouldn't exist.My experience with folks who most vocally speak out against 3.0 is that often they haven't given it a good look over.&nbsp; I have seen many people who hated it and resisted the change for many months and then became converts once they tried it.All that said, we each like what we like.&nbsp; There are still a fair amount of people out there who still prefer 1e or 2e as strange as that seems to me.&nbsp; I played them both and find 3.0/3.5 vastly superior and more fun.I have to say, i am no WOTC appologist.&nbsp; I have strong negative opinions about more than a few of their products, just not the 3.5 revisions.Well, if i didn't totally alientate all of you, i have a 3.0 PH and 3.0 DMG that i'd gladly sell for $15 for the pair, or $10 each.&nbsp; I'll pay mailing.&nbsp; They are just gathering dust.&nbsp; The 3.0 MM i gave to my 2 1/2yr old, he loves it so it's not for sale.&nbsp; Drop me a PM if you're interested, eh?- Feydras</blockquote>

[QUOTE="feydras, post: 1630411, member: 16038"] For any change there will always be a certain percentage of people who reflexively reject it. They are called in social psychology neophobes. I am not trying to be insultive with this observation, but instead simply trying to put the discussion into perspective. As an admitted neophile (the just as reactionary opposite of neophobe) i really enjoyed the changes in 3.5. I think the class changes to ranger, monk, druid and bard were absolutely necessary to balance the game. These changes, along with the others, were made directly as a result of the 3+yrs of playtesting by hordes of D&D fans. I don't agree with all the changes myself, the worst IMO are the size/spaces rules. These seem to be specifically changed to make the game more in line with the D&D miniatures game which i never intend to play. I think the majority of the changes were well done and streamlined, clarified or just plain fixed subtle or glaring oversights in the original 3.0 design. I can certainly appreciate players and DMs not wanting to shell out the bucks to update. But i think the posting of the SRD addresses this pretty fairly. What i don't understand is the anger towards WOTC for publishing material intending to improve the game. Sure they make a whole hell of a lot of money in the process, but the game is fine-tuned, sort of like a patch to a computer game. I know, i know, patches are free but so is the SRD. Finally, you don't have to update at all if you don't want to as you're all aware of or this thread wouldn't exist. My experience with folks who most vocally speak out against 3.0 is that often they haven't given it a good look over. I have seen many people who hated it and resisted the change for many months and then became converts once they tried it. All that said, we each like what we like. There are still a fair amount of people out there who still prefer 1e or 2e as strange as that seems to me. I played them both and find 3.0/3.5 vastly superior and more fun. I have to say, i am no WOTC appologist. I have strong negative opinions about more than a few of their products, just not the 3.5 revisions. Well, if i didn't totally alientate all of you, i have a 3.0 PH and 3.0 DMG that i'd gladly sell for $15 for the pair, or $10 each. I'll pay mailing. They are just gathering dust. The 3.0 MM i gave to my 2 1/2yr old, he loves it so it's not for sale. Drop me a PM if you're interested, eh? - Feydras [/QUOTE]

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