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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4753740" data-attributes="member: 710">It is a little &quot;risky&quot; to allow it, but I think the designers might have been a little conservative with effects besides bull rush and grab. My guideline at the moment is - if the attacker has combat advantage, he can make a STR (maybe even DEX) attack to trip a foe (and maybe even disarm?) - but deals no damage. That's a strong opportunity cost in my estimation - you spend your actions, can't deal damage, and you lose an opportunity to use combat advantage. Most characters would probably rather use an encounter or daily power when they have combat advantage raher than merely knock their opponent prone - but sometimes this option might be interesting anyway. (For example, to aid he Rogue to get Sneak Attack or enable another character to use his encounter or daily - or to merely run away afterwards.)---Disarms main problem has always been reliance on magical items that is built into the game system. 4E might have reduced the number of items that are cruicial for it, but it still has them. If you want to use it more often in your games, maybe remove the enhancement bonuses from the game and replace them with inherent bonuses depending on level. ---For a monster power: Disarming Strike (At-Will/Recharge 5 6/Encounter; Reliable): Standard Action. Target: One creature that grants combat advantage and/or** is bloodied, Monster attack bonus vs Reflex. Hit: Target is disarmed and its weapon drops to the ground on an adjacent square chosen by the attacker*) Whatever you prefer. I think &quot;one-trick ponies&quot; that use an annoying power are terrible, so I would probably go with encounter.**) Pick between: One condition needs to apply, either condition needs to apply, both conditions need to apply. Also dependent on how common you want it see used. If you want to have it an encounter power, you might even decide that there is no prerequisite for the target.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4753740, member: 710"] It is a little "risky" to allow it, but I think the designers might have been a little conservative with effects besides bull rush and grab. My guideline at the moment is - if the attacker has combat advantage, he can make a STR (maybe even DEX) attack to trip a foe (and maybe even disarm?) - but deals no damage. That's a strong opportunity cost in my estimation - you spend your actions, can't deal damage, and you lose an opportunity to use combat advantage. Most characters would probably rather use an encounter or daily power when they have combat advantage raher than merely knock their opponent prone - but sometimes this option might be interesting anyway. (For example, to aid he Rogue to get Sneak Attack or enable another character to use his encounter or daily - or to merely run away afterwards.) --- Disarms main problem has always been reliance on magical items that is built into the game system. 4E might have reduced the number of items that are cruicial for it, but it still has them. If you want to use it more often in your games, maybe remove the enhancement bonuses from the game and replace them with inherent bonuses depending on level. --- For a monster power: Disarming Strike (At-Will/Recharge 5 6/Encounter; Reliable): Standard Action. Target: One creature that grants combat advantage and/or** is bloodied, Monster attack bonus vs Reflex. Hit: Target is disarmed and its weapon drops to the ground on an adjacent square chosen by the attacker *) Whatever you prefer. I think "one-trick ponies" that use an annoying power are terrible, so I would probably go with encounter. **) Pick between: One condition needs to apply, either condition needs to apply, both conditions need to apply. Also dependent on how common you want it see used. If you want to have it an encounter power, you might even decide that there is no prerequisite for the target. [/QUOTE]

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