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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 4653125" data-attributes="member: 30610">I'm still scratching my head at all the air elementals - I realize that whirlwind form is neat, but underground, earth elementals are where it's at.  You could seriously undermine the foundations of the ziggeraut without even needing to fight all the defenders, as long as you send dozens of earth elementals in.As for the planetar, I wouldn't risk him up front until you have to - keep him around as a roving medic/summoner/dispeller.  Get as many of those high level spells as you can out of him before putting him in danger.  133 hps (going from the entry) is not much for a combatant at 16th level - one disintegrate and he's gone, or one round of full attacks.  You'll have to assume they have whatever it takes to ignore his DR and whatever it takes to hit him most of the time.Overall, though - you're taking captives, getting your allies killed, etc - and for what?  Just lay siege to the place and take it apart one brick at a time with conjured earth elementals, for as long as it takes.  Do you actually need these aberrations alive?  Why not just bury the entire place and pick off whoever comes up for air?  Hell, if that won't do it, at 16th level you can buy or conjure enough lamp oil to flood the entire place and just set fire to it.  Do the earth elemental thing and then do this to off whoever survives being crushed.  Don't go in and fight on their terms.</blockquote>

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