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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 104642" data-attributes="member: 386">If I remember correctly, the BG take young children and train them at an early age.&nbsp; The same thing goes for Mentats.&nbsp; The training they get is so advanced and rigorous that it doesn't make sense to have a 15-year old 1st level BG.To put it another way:&nbsp; unless the class is really front-loaded, what happened to all the skills they've learned over the past ten to fifteen years?&nbsp; No 15 year old BG is going to be able to be taken down from a lucky (re: critical) hit from a Commoner.Re: intimidation.&nbsp; The Sardaukar were very intimidating, so there should be something in the class for that.Re: game balance.&nbsp; Game balance is a good thing to aim for, but there is no way a Bene Gesserit class and a Sardaukar class are going to be balanced.&nbsp; The BG can fight better at the same age, and they have all those neat &quot;tricks&quot; they can do as well.&nbsp; (The quote I posted above in the appendix should go to show how a young BG matches up with an average Sardaukar.&nbsp; Then there are the Fremen; the Sardaukar are no match whatsoever for the Fremen, yet Jessica easily takes care of Stilgar.)It could be as simple as adding difficulties:All senses can be used - +0.&nbsp; One sense cannot be used (talking to somebody across the room) - +5.&nbsp; Two senses cannot be used (talking to somebody through a viewer of some type) - +10.&nbsp; Three senses cannot be used (listening through a radio) - +15.Four senses - +20.Yueh needed to get close to the Baron because he wasn't as good as a typical BG.&nbsp; Or so you could say.&nbsp; Maybe our take on this is different, though.&nbsp; I always thought Truthsaying was a highly developed &quot;Read Minutae&quot; skill.This keeps the amount of rules down to a single skill (and feat pairing).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 104642, member: 386"] If I remember correctly, the BG take young children and train them at an early age. The same thing goes for Mentats. The training they get is so advanced and rigorous that it doesn't make sense to have a 15-year old 1st level BG. To put it another way: unless the class is really front-loaded, what happened to all the skills they've learned over the past ten to fifteen years? No 15 year old BG is going to be able to be taken down from a lucky (re: critical) hit from a Commoner. Re: intimidation. The Sardaukar were very intimidating, so there should be something in the class for that. Re: game balance. Game balance is a good thing to aim for, but there is no way a Bene Gesserit class and a Sardaukar class are going to be balanced. The BG can fight better at the same age, and they have all those neat "tricks" they can do as well. (The quote I posted above in the appendix should go to show how a young BG matches up with an average Sardaukar. Then there are the Fremen; the Sardaukar are no match whatsoever for the Fremen, yet Jessica easily takes care of Stilgar.) It could be as simple as adding difficulties: All senses can be used - +0. One sense cannot be used (talking to somebody across the room) - +5. Two senses cannot be used (talking to somebody through a viewer of some type) - +10. Three senses cannot be used (listening through a radio) - +15. Four senses - +20. Yueh needed to get close to the Baron because he wasn't as good as a typical BG. Or so you could say. Maybe our take on this is different, though. I always thought Truthsaying was a highly developed "Read Minutae" skill. This keeps the amount of rules down to a single skill (and feat pairing). [/QUOTE]

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