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<blockquote data-quote="cthulhu42" data-source="post: 7373874" data-attributes="member: 6792361"><p>So I guess it just depends on how you define, "animal". That's a tough one. Just because a creature doesn't exist in our reality doesn't mean it's not an animal indigenous to another planet/plane/reality. </p><p></p><p>Would you just draw the line at Earth creatures and be done with it?</p><p></p><p>That would be fine until the druid takes the advanced move, Doppelgangers Dance, at which point they can, very specifically, shift into an elf (and not just any elf, but a specific elf). So that means that, at least eventually, a druid can take the form of an otherworldly creature that is self aware. Since Doppelgangers Dance is there to allow the druid to shift into an individual, unique, form, it implies, to me, that before they get that move they ought to be able to shift into non-specific animals like elves. </p><p></p><p>In other words, if I say that, pre-Doppelgangers Dance, the druid can only shift into an animal, and I define, "animal" as a non-self aware, Earth animal, that goes out the window as soon as she takes Doppelgangers Dance. </p><p></p><p>I'm wondering if the line might not be drawn at innately magical creatures?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So then are we rolling for that damage? If so, we still only roll the druids damage dice (d6 for starters). I was beginning to believe that the effect of a given animal move was left up to the GM. In other words, if a druid/elephant spent a hold to <strong>trample an enemy</strong> I might say, "You crush the goblin under your heavy feet." and the goblin is dead. No damage roll required. But are you saying that the proper response would be, "You crush the goblin under your heavy feet. Roll a d6 for damage."?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cthulhu42, post: 7373874, member: 6792361"] So I guess it just depends on how you define, "animal". That's a tough one. Just because a creature doesn't exist in our reality doesn't mean it's not an animal indigenous to another planet/plane/reality. Would you just draw the line at Earth creatures and be done with it? That would be fine until the druid takes the advanced move, Doppelgangers Dance, at which point they can, very specifically, shift into an elf (and not just any elf, but a specific elf). So that means that, at least eventually, a druid can take the form of an otherworldly creature that is self aware. Since Doppelgangers Dance is there to allow the druid to shift into an individual, unique, form, it implies, to me, that before they get that move they ought to be able to shift into non-specific animals like elves. In other words, if I say that, pre-Doppelgangers Dance, the druid can only shift into an animal, and I define, "animal" as a non-self aware, Earth animal, that goes out the window as soon as she takes Doppelgangers Dance. I'm wondering if the line might not be drawn at innately magical creatures? So then are we rolling for that damage? If so, we still only roll the druids damage dice (d6 for starters). I was beginning to believe that the effect of a given animal move was left up to the GM. In other words, if a druid/elephant spent a hold to [B]trample an enemy[/B] I might say, "You crush the goblin under your heavy feet." and the goblin is dead. No damage roll required. But are you saying that the proper response would be, "You crush the goblin under your heavy feet. Roll a d6 for damage."? [/QUOTE]
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