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ANy easy, good way to un-nerf magic items in 4th ed?
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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 4632192" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>IMHO, magic items have been excessively over nerfed. </p><p>Much as I loathed how 3rd ed had eventually become "Ye golf cart of items game" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />, 4th ed seems t ohave gone way too far the other way.</p><p></p><p>I understand there's balance questions, but, when a player gets "Gauntlets of Ogre Power" they should be <u>OOMPH! </u>kick ass! Not just +5 hp damage 1/day! </p><p>Doesn't fit, does it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p>They should be called "<em>Gauntlets of Somebody Strong After He's Had His Porridge", </em>not "<em>Gauntlets of 10' tall behemoth That Throws Folk Through Walls!"</em> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rather such Gauntlets gave you 20 Strength (regardless of what you actually are) for a short time 1/day or the like, this also fits in with a point missing from 3rd and 4th, the traditional <em>"Whimp who gets magic item and can kick butt!...for a while..."</em></p><p>that's a staple of fantasy.</p><p>Now it's not really possible because he only gets a small bonus to his original strength.</p><p></p><p>maybe too late to tweak this, but you get what I mean? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Least Artifacts are DECENT now, 3rd ed ones were pathetic, same with "Legacy" items, jeesh. House ruled them to take out the silly penalties from Legacy items, and Artifacts were crazy dangerous in my 3.5 games:</p><p> "<em>Inc 40d6 Fireball with 40' radius centred, someplace random! Hey, created by a chaotic god, what did you expect? It will survive the blast, it doesn't care if you don't..."</em></p><p></p><p>Way I always looked at it, Artifacts should scare the beejezuz out of the owner as WELL as everyone else!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 4632192, member: 19083"] IMHO, magic items have been excessively over nerfed. Much as I loathed how 3rd ed had eventually become "Ye golf cart of items game" :p, 4th ed seems t ohave gone way too far the other way. I understand there's balance questions, but, when a player gets "Gauntlets of Ogre Power" they should be [U]OOMPH! [/U]kick ass! Not just +5 hp damage 1/day! Doesn't fit, does it? :( They should be called "[I]Gauntlets of Somebody Strong After He's Had His Porridge", [/I]not "[I]Gauntlets of 10' tall behemoth That Throws Folk Through Walls!"[/I] :devil: Rather such Gauntlets gave you 20 Strength (regardless of what you actually are) for a short time 1/day or the like, this also fits in with a point missing from 3rd and 4th, the traditional [I]"Whimp who gets magic item and can kick butt!...for a while..."[/I] that's a staple of fantasy. Now it's not really possible because he only gets a small bonus to his original strength. maybe too late to tweak this, but you get what I mean? :) Least Artifacts are DECENT now, 3rd ed ones were pathetic, same with "Legacy" items, jeesh. House ruled them to take out the silly penalties from Legacy items, and Artifacts were crazy dangerous in my 3.5 games: "[i]Inc 40d6 Fireball with 40' radius centred, someplace random! Hey, created by a chaotic god, what did you expect? It will survive the blast, it doesn't care if you don't..."[/i] Way I always looked at it, Artifacts should scare the beejezuz out of the owner as WELL as everyone else! [/QUOTE]
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