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Any Eldritch Knights here use a familiar?
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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6598539" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>Why are you giving up <em>shield</em>? It is an abjuration spell. EKs get to take it. </p><p></p><p><em>find familiar</em> is a good spell for EKs. They get to take better advantage of it than wizards because they can enter melee attracting attacks, so that the familiar isn't hit. They can use the familiar for getting advantage in combat taking advantage of feats like Sharpshooter and GWM earlier.</p><p></p><p><em>Blur</em> is an illusion spell. Earliest you could take <em>blur</em> is 8th level. You only get to take abjuration and evocation spells with one spell from another school at 1st level. Since <em>blur</em> is not an option at 1st level, <em>find familiar</em> is quite good. It has a long duration. It has multiple uses including a strong combat use that doesn't require the casting of the spell over and over again. It doesn't take up a concentration slot when active. I don't think it is much of an opportunity cost at all. It's one of the better 1st level spells an EK can take.</p><p></p><p>EKs can only switch spells for evocation or abjuration spells except if changing the spell at 8th, 14th, and 20th level. You don't get to take <em>blur</em> until 8th level. Your 14th level slot is for <em>haste</em>, the best spell for an EK and will use your concentration slot. </p><p></p><p>I don't see any opportunity cost for an EK unless you can think of a better 1st level spell that gives more bang for the buck. <em>Find Familiar</em> doesn't compete with <em>blur</em> or <em>blink</em>on the spell list. I doubt I take <em>blink</em> before I take <em>haste</em>. <em>Haste</em> is all kinds of awesome. An extra attack, +2 on AC, extra movement. No class can take more advantage of <em>haste</em> than an EK.</p><p></p><p>So what 1st level spell would you take over <em>find familiar</em>? That is the only opportunity cost you can measure it by.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6598539, member: 5834"] Why are you giving up [I]shield[/I]? It is an abjuration spell. EKs get to take it. [I]find familiar[/I] is a good spell for EKs. They get to take better advantage of it than wizards because they can enter melee attracting attacks, so that the familiar isn't hit. They can use the familiar for getting advantage in combat taking advantage of feats like Sharpshooter and GWM earlier. [I]Blur[/I] is an illusion spell. Earliest you could take [I]blur[/I] is 8th level. You only get to take abjuration and evocation spells with one spell from another school at 1st level. Since [I]blur[/I] is not an option at 1st level, [I]find familiar[/I] is quite good. It has a long duration. It has multiple uses including a strong combat use that doesn't require the casting of the spell over and over again. It doesn't take up a concentration slot when active. I don't think it is much of an opportunity cost at all. It's one of the better 1st level spells an EK can take. EKs can only switch spells for evocation or abjuration spells except if changing the spell at 8th, 14th, and 20th level. You don't get to take [I]blur[/I] until 8th level. Your 14th level slot is for [I]haste[/I], the best spell for an EK and will use your concentration slot. I don't see any opportunity cost for an EK unless you can think of a better 1st level spell that gives more bang for the buck. [I]Find Familiar[/I] doesn't compete with [I]blur[/I] or [I]blink[/I]on the spell list. I doubt I take [I]blink[/I] before I take [I]haste[/I]. [I]Haste[/I] is all kinds of awesome. An extra attack, +2 on AC, extra movement. No class can take more advantage of [I]haste[/I] than an EK. So what 1st level spell would you take over [I]find familiar[/I]? That is the only opportunity cost you can measure it by. [/QUOTE]
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