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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 4417126" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>I am very pleased to see at least one monster in 4E that does not reward the "Just hit it." playstyle.</p><p></p><p>1. Don't strike to kill the eidolon's allies. In 4E it is the attacker's choice to kill or subdue when they bring a victim to 0 HP. The Eidolon's <em>Vengeful Flames </em>ability triggers only on a "kill", unlike several other abilties that trigger on creatures that hit 0 HP.</p><p></p><p>2. Don't be unwilling to leave it be. If after it's allies are taken down, it is just going to sit there, let it. Loot the place and move on. Drag the things allies out of its sight and slit thier throats if you need them dead. An immobile rock with resist 20 that can whack you for 2d8+8 if you attack it is a <em>DC 1</em> Int test. It is supposed to come at the party with slams after the allies are gone. if it turtles instead, leave it alone.</p><p></p><p>Now I will admit it does look like it could pay "Sit on the objective" a little <em>too well </em>for it's level. </p><p></p><p>Yeah, thats why it is a level 13 leader. When using foes of divergent levels against the party, the DM is supposed to double check the monster’s capabilities to make sure if the party can deal with them. This is one of the cases where a level 13 foe’s capabilities make it a bad fit for two level level 9 enemies if the DM plans to have the thing<s> play "turtle" after it's allies are gone.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>The only 'fix' that might be needed is to have <em>Hallowed Stance</em> require at least one non Eidolon ally within 20 squares. This will enforce the suggested combat approach in the Eidolon entry.</s></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 4417126, member: 1164"] I am very pleased to see at least one monster in 4E that does not reward the "Just hit it." playstyle. 1. Don't strike to kill the eidolon's allies. In 4E it is the attacker's choice to kill or subdue when they bring a victim to 0 HP. The Eidolon's [I]Vengeful Flames [/I]ability triggers only on a "kill", unlike several other abilties that trigger on creatures that hit 0 HP. 2. Don't be unwilling to leave it be. If after it's allies are taken down, it is just going to sit there, let it. Loot the place and move on. Drag the things allies out of its sight and slit thier throats if you need them dead. An immobile rock with resist 20 that can whack you for 2d8+8 if you attack it is a [I]DC 1[/I] Int test. It is supposed to come at the party with slams after the allies are gone. if it turtles instead, leave it alone. Now I will admit it does look like it could pay "Sit on the objective" a little [I]too well [/I]for it's level. Yeah, thats why it is a level 13 leader. When using foes of divergent levels against the party, the DM is supposed to double check the monster’s capabilities to make sure if the party can deal with them. This is one of the cases where a level 13 foe’s capabilities make it a bad fit for two level level 9 enemies if the DM plans to have the thing[s] play "turtle" after it's allies are gone. The only 'fix' that might be needed is to have [I]Hallowed Stance[/I] require at least one non Eidolon ally within 20 squares. This will enforce the suggested combat approach in the Eidolon entry.[/s] [/QUOTE]
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