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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 6359860" data-attributes="member: 413">I dont think of a stealtth check in combat to necessarily be just an attempt to hide, but an attempt to remain hidden long enough to gain advantage on your attack or move to another location without someone noticing you.Real life example:  I used to play a ton of paintball.  I learned how to move while opposing players were busy shooting to get in a better position.  In one game I was approaching a large fallen tree root. I could hear opposing players on the other side of it firing.  They seemed unaware of me but certainly could have been wary.  So in game terms they had concealment and cover from me but were not hidden.  I was hidden from them.  I timed my movement so I could get to a spot where I could see them.  They remained unaware of me even though I was now in a position where they could see me.  There were two of them so I waited for one to start to reload...then shot his buddy in the head (attack with advantage plus sneak attack). The reloading guy could not return fire so got up to run...so I shot him in the back.  So basically I have characters make stealth checks when it becomes relevant.  If they meved to a location where they cant be seen they are hidden.  They will make a stealth check when a) another character might see them (stealth vs passive perception) b) another character spends an action to find them (stealth vs perception or investigation) or c) the hidden character attempts to move (stealth vs passive perception).  I'll apply advantage or disadvantage based on circumstances and the distance of the move.If you are not out of sight but in a place with decent hiding places (a warehouse full of crates or a field full of brush) you can us an action to hide.  Rogues can us cunning action.</blockquote>

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