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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charles Rampant" data-source="post: 6360679" data-attributes="member: 32659">Can you actually quote and explain the rules in question? I have quoted them, and they do not back your interpretation up. The idea that you can "take ten" on an active check and still have the opportunity to get above ten on the roll is radical and completely contrary to how the rules of the game normally work. The only thing that ever allows it, AFAIK, is a major class ability for the Rogue.Yeah, that is more in the nature of a houserule than anything the rules directly say. I'm happy to reduce the rolls to mean that only the active participants (i.e. players) make the rolls, following the chain of logic, even if the rules don't allow it.</blockquote>