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<blockquote data-quote="Seule" data-source="post: 4091415" data-attributes="member: 407">A successful streetwise check doesn't have to mean you know of a secret door or that the alley suddenly isn't a dead end, it may mean that you didn't actually take that street at all, because you knew better. Or, that you know that area well enough that you can take advantage of a hidden handhold to get a bonus to climb out. On the other hand, it's quite possible that a streetwise check won't help at all, and you need athletics or stealth in this case to get successes. The mechanic encourages players to have input into the world, to the extent that the DM lets them. A DM who has already decided the pertinent details won't let players change them.Finally, I can easily see a situation where you are escaping from guards, and get enough successes to escape before leaving the main square. That just means that you've helped yourselves and hampered the pursuers enough that your escape is a forgone conclusion at that point, even if all you still have to do is run.&nbsp; --Penn</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Seule, post: 4091415, member: 407"] A successful streetwise check doesn't have to mean you know of a secret door or that the alley suddenly isn't a dead end, it may mean that you didn't actually take that street at all, because you knew better. Or, that you know that area well enough that you can take advantage of a hidden handhold to get a bonus to climb out. On the other hand, it's quite possible that a streetwise check won't help at all, and you need athletics or stealth in this case to get successes. The mechanic encourages players to have input into the world, to the extent that the DM lets them. A DM who has already decided the pertinent details won't let players change them. Finally, I can easily see a situation where you are escaping from guards, and get enough successes to escape before leaving the main square. That just means that you've helped yourselves and hampered the pursuers enough that your escape is a forgone conclusion at that point, even if all you still have to do is run. --Penn [/QUOTE]

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