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<blockquote data-quote="jaer" data-source="post: 4092211" data-attributes="member: 57861">No problem!&nbsp; I would never suggest my way was best.&nbsp; Only that it is mine.&nbsp; I feel that the maps and the planning helps me be organized, which I typically am not.&nbsp; By doing as much prep work a head of time, it helps me stay on track and keep a handle of the situation.&nbsp; Not that I don't let my players do whatever they like...I do!&nbsp; And I don't shut them down for being creative: I do my best to reward it.But I feel most comfortable when I can fully see and understand the surrounds.I was refering to this.&nbsp; I did not misunderstand, but my example got twisted in the writing and came out all wrong.&nbsp; I knew you meant the player determined the corruption of the guard by picking the DC, which is a concept I have an equally hard time wrapping my head around, to be honest.Again, my problem with this comes from the fact that, as I play it, The Jaer Style (TJS) (tm), I would know where the captain of the guard is and know who he was following.&nbsp; I couldn't just have him teleport to where this player is.Also I have a difficult time with the idea of the player, in an alley, knowing the guard is coming, and saying &quot;What level of challenge do you want to come around the corner at you?&quot;Or, in this situation.&nbsp; The player, instead of trying to negotiate, tries to hide.DM: How much do you want to conceal yourself?PC: Medium amount.&nbsp; &lt;rolls low&gt;&nbsp; Crap.DM: The guard walks cautiously around the corner, shield raised high, fully expecting an ambush.&nbsp; He strolls in slowly, using his mace to prod the barrels you hid behind.&nbsp; He's spotted you, and shouts &quot;Hey!&nbsp; Come out of there!&quot;PC:&nbsp; Okay...I'll negotiate.As the DM, do I give him the choice of picking medium (normal guard) or easy (corrupt guard) or hard (the greatsword weilding paladin who was behind the king at the...wait a tick...this guy wa already discribed as a regular guard with a mace!)...well, can't be hard.&nbsp; So medium or easy?&nbsp; What if a few other people picked easy...how many corrupt guards are in this city?When do I, as a DM, stop the players from deciding what level of DC they are rolling against?&nbsp; And how do I justify that to players?&nbsp; &quot;Sorry, you can't pick an easy negotiation DC because two other people already did it, and there is no way there are that many shady guards in this city!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jaer, post: 4092211, member: 57861"] No problem! I would never suggest my way was best. Only that it is mine. I feel that the maps and the planning helps me be organized, which I typically am not. By doing as much prep work a head of time, it helps me stay on track and keep a handle of the situation. Not that I don't let my players do whatever they like...I do! And I don't shut them down for being creative: I do my best to reward it. But I feel most comfortable when I can fully see and understand the surrounds. I was refering to this. I did not misunderstand, but my example got twisted in the writing and came out all wrong. I knew you meant the player determined the corruption of the guard by picking the DC, which is a concept I have an equally hard time wrapping my head around, to be honest. Again, my problem with this comes from the fact that, as I play it, The Jaer Style (TJS) (tm), I would know where the captain of the guard is and know who he was following. I couldn't just have him teleport to where this player is. Also I have a difficult time with the idea of the player, in an alley, knowing the guard is coming, and saying "What level of challenge do you want to come around the corner at you?" Or, in this situation. The player, instead of trying to negotiate, tries to hide. DM: How much do you want to conceal yourself? PC: Medium amount. <rolls low> Crap. DM: The guard walks cautiously around the corner, shield raised high, fully expecting an ambush. He strolls in slowly, using his mace to prod the barrels you hid behind. He's spotted you, and shouts "Hey! Come out of there!" PC: Okay...I'll negotiate. As the DM, do I give him the choice of picking medium (normal guard) or easy (corrupt guard) or hard (the greatsword weilding paladin who was behind the king at the...wait a tick...this guy wa already discribed as a regular guard with a mace!)...well, can't be hard. So medium or easy? What if a few other people picked easy...how many corrupt guards are in this city? When do I, as a DM, stop the players from deciding what level of DC they are rolling against? And how do I justify that to players? "Sorry, you can't pick an easy negotiation DC because two other people already did it, and there is no way there are that many shady guards in this city!" [/QUOTE]

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