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<blockquote data-quote="jeffh" data-source="post: 5874964" data-attributes="member: 2642"><p>Well, that's a whole different debate - how exactly you define the seasons, that is. It's not like there's some central authority that has the power to define that. But if there's one thing everyone could agree on, I would hope it would be that whatever the correct definitions are, or would be if any existed, they are NOT the ones American calendar makers appear to use. A look out one's window, about as many days as not, should be sufficient to refute those, but the coup de grace is that the date they claim summer <em>begins</em> on, the summer solstice, is traditionally known as <strong><span style="font-size: 15px">MID</span></strong>summer... so those dates have neither history nor common sense going for them. Late June is <em>not</em> "spring" by any sensible definition.</p><p></p><p>To everyone, not just Blackwarder:</p><p></p><p>Perhaps I am overreacting, but I also feel I'm being slightly misunderstood. To be clear, the disappointment is (a) that they're running the same playtest as before, even though internally, I would <em>hope</em> they've moved on from there, there are several ways to interpret that but none of them are good; and (b) <em>not </em>merely that they have not started the open playtest but they <em>don't know when they'll be able to</em> (which IME, pretty much always means "don't hold your breath"). Even if they <em>are</em> giving themselves until late June, that's getting to be a pretty tight timeline, don't you think?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I wouldn't be so frustrated about this if this weren't a project I'm excited about and want to see in some form. But also, given past WotC behaviour, I'm starting to worry that the longer we have to wait, the more likely the payoff will prove disappointing. Part of that's psychological of course, but part of it is also the objective reality of WotC's track record.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jeffh, post: 5874964, member: 2642"] Well, that's a whole different debate - how exactly you define the seasons, that is. It's not like there's some central authority that has the power to define that. But if there's one thing everyone could agree on, I would hope it would be that whatever the correct definitions are, or would be if any existed, they are NOT the ones American calendar makers appear to use. A look out one's window, about as many days as not, should be sufficient to refute those, but the coup de grace is that the date they claim summer [I]begins[/I] on, the summer solstice, is traditionally known as [B][SIZE="4"]MID[/SIZE][/B]summer... so those dates have neither history nor common sense going for them. Late June is [I]not[/I] "spring" by any sensible definition. To everyone, not just Blackwarder: Perhaps I am overreacting, but I also feel I'm being slightly misunderstood. To be clear, the disappointment is (a) that they're running the same playtest as before, even though internally, I would [I]hope[/I] they've moved on from there, there are several ways to interpret that but none of them are good; and (b) [I]not [/I]merely that they have not started the open playtest but they [I]don't know when they'll be able to[/I] (which IME, pretty much always means "don't hold your breath"). Even if they [I]are[/I] giving themselves until late June, that's getting to be a pretty tight timeline, don't you think? Anyway, I wouldn't be so frustrated about this if this weren't a project I'm excited about and want to see in some form. But also, given past WotC behaviour, I'm starting to worry that the longer we have to wait, the more likely the payoff will prove disappointing. Part of that's psychological of course, but part of it is also the objective reality of WotC's track record. [/QUOTE]
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