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Message: <blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 1574624" data-attributes="member: 3457">Actually, yes and no. I am wanting a more rules lite game, after 3-4 years of 3e I am started to get bogged down by skills this and feats that and tweakage of this and tweakage of that and 4 page character sheets and supplement A and Prestige Class Z,X and Y and you get the picture...WHat I am wanting is Basic D&D, a nice rules lite system where I can hand a few 3x5 notecards to my players, have them roll their stats and buy their equipment and start playing... That would rule... Then I start remembering the complexity of Thac0 and all those saving throws and my anus starts bleeding and I think I want a D20 rules lite Basic D&D game and not the upcoming boxed set, no prestige classes, no feats, simple skill system etc.Jason</blockquote>