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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1575373" data-attributes="member: 172">Gee, hyperbolize much?The old "pick three templates" is an old Dragonsfoot "I hate 3e" carnard, and most of us who really run, utilize, and play the game almost never do that in actuality unless they have a really good reason. And you should know that. You are just exagarrating to try to create false appearances, which is dirty pool.And in 1e, you were limited to adding extra HD to do that. I feel I am much more able to make these characters come to like when I am able to, for example, add rogue levels to the kobold.True. Feats are pretty inherent. But then AFAIAC, why would you want to. Feats add flexibility and customization without going the point gen route.False. Prestige classes, generally and (especially) in specific, exist entirely at the GM's pleasure.Feats... why would you want to.Prestige classes... I have played entire campaigns without them.You are conflating two entirely different mechanics with entirely different levels of need in the game in order to make a patently false claim about the second one.If they are intelligent, they are NPCs. NPCs can have classes.But you would have them behave as if they are not... as if they wouldn't apply their intelligence. That makes no sense.Have I not repeatedly said I would.Great for you. Go play 1e and enjoy it. You'll pardon those of us who are playing 3e if we were not totally satisfied by that experience.It is no such "proof". Just because they lacked helpful details does not mean that a clever person can extrapolate them. The difference was that in 1e, the GM was relied up to extrapolate those details themselves, often in an ad hoc and inconsistant manner. What if a quickling has to make a dex check?In other times, the information had a correct and (within the rules as they existed) consistent manner, you were just forced to tread back and forth in the books if you wanted to apply it. Like saving throws. You had to look them up ... much like THAC0. And even then, since some creatures "saved as" certain classes, I hope you remembered to consult the right table. And you had to do this while your players were waiting for results.Not good. I vastly prefer having the number I need to make a determination right in the stat block, for reasons of ease of reference and consistency.And as I have said before, I would find your take on "complex" villains lacking.That is hypocritical. First you tell me that intelligenct creatures shouldn't develop the same sorts of skills that PC races do, and now you are telling me there should be a reason for what they do? Do you not see the inconsistancy between those two stances? From my perspective, it seems to me you are half parroting supposed logical reason's for 1e's superiority, but you really are not logically thinking it through. You are just trying to validate your existing preferences.</blockquote>

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