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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 1633198" data-attributes="member: 3608">1. It is not arbitrary. Don't want your established character to die? Then don't put him in the position of making a system shock roll.2. To my way of thinking, the events that happen can't ruin the campaign because they are the campaign.3. If, as DM, I was in that position where I felt the PC dying was going to ruin the campaign, I'd simply tell the player that I was going to make the system shock roll for him & fudge it. No reason to throw out a perfectly good & sensible rule on account of such easily handled rare occurrences.I think all we're saying, though, is that we have different styles of play.Gee. How do I answer that. I've been playing computer & video games as long as I've been playing roleplaying games. Longer, in fact. I got my D&D Basic Set in c. 1981 but we got our Apple ][ c. 1979. (And I played games on mainframes before that.) Over the years, sometimes I've been an avid player; sometimes, not. I did just spend much of last weekend getting 22% of the way through Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. (The wife was out of town, so I had to spend some time taking care of the kids. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)I'm not saying the 3e campaign feels just like a video game. I'm saying their are elements that make it feel more like a video game than any other roleplaying game I've played. Like I said, I don't know exactly what it is. Its probably the combination of a lot of things. The 3.5 paladin warhorse (somebody called it a pokémount) is probably one of the little things.It's kind of like when you're playing a FPS and you're totally immersed. You don't see the pixellation. You are there. Then you see one of those spinning power up icons that looks nothing like anything you'd see in real life & it screams, "You are playing a game!" BAM. End immersion.I get these "BAM...I feel almost like I'm playing a video game" moments when playing 3e.</blockquote>

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