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<blockquote data-quote="jasamcarl" data-source="post: 2149014" data-attributes="member: 1251"><p>I dropped out of comics way back in the early 90s, but decided to go retro last year and on the basis of some online reviews ordered a few trades of Morrison's New X-Men. I dropped out after getting through them and the first of Whedon's Astonishing run, but I can say that the 'core' X-Men titles are better than they have been since atleast the early 80s, and probably quite a bit better than the overwhelming majority of Claremont's stuff. </p><p></p><p>Some fanboys apparently didn't like New X-Men because of its disregard for continuity and the sudden shift in tone. I see both of those as advantages. Doing so allowed him to write tight but subversive superhero stories that focused on the core themes of the X-men, which should always be more important than the mostly lame history of the characters themselves.</p><p></p><p>Astonishing is more basic, but better written than anything in my memory. It's not as interesting as Morrison, but both the art and pacing are more consistent, though i'm only going on six issues. Think X-Men meets first three seasons of Buffy and you have a good idea of the tone. There is some background social commentary, but it is mostly perky dialogue and intentionally gratuitous action sequences that are there just because this is a superhero comic. The fact that Whedon knows they are gratuitous makes them more fun than annoying. The art is fantastic; 'realistic' but perfectly suitable to kinetic, cartoonish action. For the first time, you can see why characters in the book as oppossed to weird fanboys would find Kitty Pryde attractive.</p><p></p><p>The other X titles I hear are aweful, and Claremont is apparently up to his old, dumb tricks in his books. The guy defined my idea of the X-Men (now with a bit of Morrison's tweaking), but now he is just tired.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jasamcarl, post: 2149014, member: 1251"] I dropped out of comics way back in the early 90s, but decided to go retro last year and on the basis of some online reviews ordered a few trades of Morrison's New X-Men. I dropped out after getting through them and the first of Whedon's Astonishing run, but I can say that the 'core' X-Men titles are better than they have been since atleast the early 80s, and probably quite a bit better than the overwhelming majority of Claremont's stuff. Some fanboys apparently didn't like New X-Men because of its disregard for continuity and the sudden shift in tone. I see both of those as advantages. Doing so allowed him to write tight but subversive superhero stories that focused on the core themes of the X-men, which should always be more important than the mostly lame history of the characters themselves. Astonishing is more basic, but better written than anything in my memory. It's not as interesting as Morrison, but both the art and pacing are more consistent, though i'm only going on six issues. Think X-Men meets first three seasons of Buffy and you have a good idea of the tone. There is some background social commentary, but it is mostly perky dialogue and intentionally gratuitous action sequences that are there just because this is a superhero comic. The fact that Whedon knows they are gratuitous makes them more fun than annoying. The art is fantastic; 'realistic' but perfectly suitable to kinetic, cartoonish action. For the first time, you can see why characters in the book as oppossed to weird fanboys would find Kitty Pryde attractive. The other X titles I hear are aweful, and Claremont is apparently up to his old, dumb tricks in his books. The guy defined my idea of the X-Men (now with a bit of Morrison's tweaking), but now he is just tired. [/QUOTE]
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