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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8106707" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>You can't have it both ways. Your post is simultaneously arguing that RAW should not be given significant weight in favor of letting the GM finish the system and that RAW is explicit on another matter because of what is not actually in the wording of the base or errata'd version. 5e needs to take the bad with the good by embracing one thing instead of taking the good and pawning the bad off on the gm forced to maintain some semblance of balance with an endless list of one off houserules & edge cases. Sure 3.5 could get a little sticky in unintended ways when you start splitting hairs on things pulled from too many sourcebooks and such, but 5e goes the other way where the insanity is baked right into straight plain reading of RAW with too much stuff where you immediately hit the wall without even leaving the phb or phb+1 It doesn't take a 12D chess champion to catch the zero step RAW insanity examples with even the most basic of sanity checking. The paladin entry doesn't say 1/turn sure, but if we are judging based on what it does & doesn't say.... it doesn't say it's not a spell either so by the logic of <em>"doesn't say 1/turn, so it's not 1/turn"</em> it's a spell because it doesn't say that it's not a spell either. What is not in the plain reading of RAW an impossible & infinitely deep rabbit hole to make judgements on. </p><p></p><p>This tangent got started because a bonkers wording in the PHB wotc forces the gm to fix rather than issue an errata does not make dual wielding good. There is a difference between houseruling the system to fit the needs of your campaign & houseruling it because there is so many terribly worded bits that it's hard to believe it was not intentionally broken as designed. They were willing to errata it to raise the power for the unintended scorlockadin, just couldn't bother to be explicit or avoid forcing the GM to be the bad guy by fixing the rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8106707, member: 93670"] You can't have it both ways. Your post is simultaneously arguing that RAW should not be given significant weight in favor of letting the GM finish the system and that RAW is explicit on another matter because of what is not actually in the wording of the base or errata'd version. 5e needs to take the bad with the good by embracing one thing instead of taking the good and pawning the bad off on the gm forced to maintain some semblance of balance with an endless list of one off houserules & edge cases. Sure 3.5 could get a little sticky in unintended ways when you start splitting hairs on things pulled from too many sourcebooks and such, but 5e goes the other way where the insanity is baked right into straight plain reading of RAW with too much stuff where you immediately hit the wall without even leaving the phb or phb+1 It doesn't take a 12D chess champion to catch the zero step RAW insanity examples with even the most basic of sanity checking. The paladin entry doesn't say 1/turn sure, but if we are judging based on what it does & doesn't say.... it doesn't say it's not a spell either so by the logic of [I]"doesn't say 1/turn, so it's not 1/turn"[/I] it's a spell because it doesn't say that it's not a spell either. What is not in the plain reading of RAW an impossible & infinitely deep rabbit hole to make judgements on. This tangent got started because a bonkers wording in the PHB wotc forces the gm to fix rather than issue an errata does not make dual wielding good. There is a difference between houseruling the system to fit the needs of your campaign & houseruling it because there is so many terribly worded bits that it's hard to believe it was not intentionally broken as designed. They were willing to errata it to raise the power for the unintended scorlockadin, just couldn't bother to be explicit or avoid forcing the GM to be the bad guy by fixing the rest. [/QUOTE]
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