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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5593765" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>Ajar: I'm not sure where Shadow Stride gets into it, since it's pretty clear what rules it breaks -- normally, you cannot move more than 2 squares without a stealth penalty, but not with Shadow Stride, and normally losing concealment at any point during a move will cause you to lose stealth, but Shadow Strike breaks that too.</p><p></p><p>Gloaming Cut: it's kinda ambiguous, given that Gloaming Cut (and the other "and you may make a stealth check to become hidden" power) was intended to be used with the cunning sneak and was released after the eratta that let you make a stealth check after any movement.</p><p></p><p>The problem with the naive interpretation (as expressed by Ajar) is that under that interpretation, the "and you may make a stealth check to become hidden" on Gloaming Cut does precisely nothing for the cunning sneak. If you move such that you have concealment, you may -always- made a stealth check to become hidden. If you don't have concealment, a stealth check does nothing for you.</p><p></p><p>So presuming that GC was intended for the Sneak, one must assume they meant "and you may make a stealth check to become hidden even if you wouldn't normally be able to do so." Given that interpretation, I'd say you can use it to become hidden again.</p><p></p><p>(of course, if it weren't intended for the Sneak, it would let you move into normal, not total concealment and become hidden, which is worthwhile). In the end, check with your GM before you try this and expect it to work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 5593765, member: 59248"] Ajar: I'm not sure where Shadow Stride gets into it, since it's pretty clear what rules it breaks -- normally, you cannot move more than 2 squares without a stealth penalty, but not with Shadow Stride, and normally losing concealment at any point during a move will cause you to lose stealth, but Shadow Strike breaks that too. Gloaming Cut: it's kinda ambiguous, given that Gloaming Cut (and the other "and you may make a stealth check to become hidden" power) was intended to be used with the cunning sneak and was released after the eratta that let you make a stealth check after any movement. The problem with the naive interpretation (as expressed by Ajar) is that under that interpretation, the "and you may make a stealth check to become hidden" on Gloaming Cut does precisely nothing for the cunning sneak. If you move such that you have concealment, you may -always- made a stealth check to become hidden. If you don't have concealment, a stealth check does nothing for you. So presuming that GC was intended for the Sneak, one must assume they meant "and you may make a stealth check to become hidden even if you wouldn't normally be able to do so." Given that interpretation, I'd say you can use it to become hidden again. (of course, if it weren't intended for the Sneak, it would let you move into normal, not total concealment and become hidden, which is worthwhile). In the end, check with your GM before you try this and expect it to work. [/QUOTE]
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