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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VelvetViolet" data-source="post: 6159675" data-attributes="member: 6686357">As stated above, most of the reasons for why they're a separate type were removed (shapechanging spells). The charm spell distinction makes no sense (why is a centaur unaffected by charm person despite having identical psychology to demi-humans?), and can be solved by putting an HD cap on charm person like for other spells of similar level. The criterion for monstrous humanoid (monstrous or animal features) is frequently ignored (see Gnolls and every other animalistic race classified as humanoid). In fact, in 3.5, monstrous humanoids were almost identical to humanoids aside from BAB, a second good save, and darkvision. Pathfinder introduced the most changes to the type.Why are they a separate type?</blockquote>