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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6574581" data-attributes="member: 463">IMC, which is lowish magic Conanesque swords &amp; sorcery, I would like a battle between say an 18th level Barbarian PC and six 3rd level evil priests not to be a kerbstomp victory for the evil priests. Currently 5e does a great job of emulating Thulsa Doom's Domination &amp; execution of Conan's mother at the start of CtB movie, but a bad job of emulating the final scene where Conan resists the Domination and executes Thulsa Doom in turn.This discussion has been interesting and given me some things to look out for. I'm happy now that all-good-saves won't break the game, and many thanks to [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] for helpful contributions, although I don't think all-good-saves is necessary if you are running a traditional 3e/4e-style setup with a 4/5 PC group running through multiple 'built' encounters designed to challenge but not kill the PCs.&nbsp; That's not how I ran pre-3e and it's not how I'd generally want to use 5e either, I like it that 5e seems robust enough to allow for a much more Status Quo/Environment based campaign design (also the 5e encounter-building and monster-building rules seem rather weak &amp; messy to me, at least compared to 4e).I see now one thing to bear in mind if I run 5e at the Meetup rather than via Dragonsfoot is that players coming from 3e/PF are going to be looking for more of a 3e approach to rules, and some degree of continuing caster supremacy, and may be disgruntled if they don't get it, so with 5e playstyle will be very important to emphasise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6574581, member: 463"] IMC, which is lowish magic Conanesque swords & sorcery, I would like a battle between say an 18th level Barbarian PC and six 3rd level evil priests not to be a kerbstomp victory for the evil priests. Currently 5e does a great job of emulating Thulsa Doom's Domination & execution of Conan's mother at the start of CtB movie, but a bad job of emulating the final scene where Conan resists the Domination and executes Thulsa Doom in turn. This discussion has been interesting and given me some things to look out for. I'm happy now that all-good-saves won't break the game, and many thanks to [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] for helpful contributions, although I don't think all-good-saves is necessary if you are running a traditional 3e/4e-style setup with a 4/5 PC group running through multiple 'built' encounters designed to challenge but not kill the PCs. That's not how I ran pre-3e and it's not how I'd generally want to use 5e either, I like it that 5e seems robust enough to allow for a much more Status Quo/Environment based campaign design (also the 5e encounter-building and monster-building rules seem rather weak & messy to me, at least compared to 4e). I see now one thing to bear in mind if I run 5e at the Meetup rather than via Dragonsfoot is that players coming from 3e/PF are going to be looking for more of a 3e approach to rules, and some degree of continuing caster supremacy, and may be disgruntled if they don't get it, so with 5e playstyle will be very important to emphasise. [/QUOTE]

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