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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1127720" data-attributes="member: 172">Huh? Dropping you below zero isn't killing you either; it should be obvious from the context of dropping you to zero WP that I wasn't speaking of instand fatality either.That said, I'm sure I could make a shot to the heart that would be lethal with a 22 if I lucked out and got past the ribcage. Not what I am talking about, though. I am two steps removed from that.This is doublespeak. It's realistic or not. d20 modern at least has a critical system that amplifies the damage, or you could have upped the damage of smaller calibers. Either would have worked. Again, it wasn't designed to. It's not a matter of "inherent limitations of the system." It "decisions of the system designer."Okay, and that could still be true if I gave the weapons 1d20 damage; you could still roll 3 "1's". You act as if my argument is that 22s should be lethal most or all of the time. This is a strawman.At the same time, in the recent shootings in WV, 22 shots were lethal. Point? Occasionally it can be lethal. d20 modern can take someone out of the fight and kill someone with a small caliber weapon if they get a crit. Spycraft could have done somehting like this. It was a conscious decision not to.</blockquote>