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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Glade Riven" data-source="post: 5286478" data-attributes="member: 86468">Meh. Suzuka cutting a bus in half with a wooden sword is no worse than a lot of the magic stuff. And Disintegrate is a standard DBZ power <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> The rule for Suspension of Disbelief only requires that the imaginary world is consistent to itself. EDIT: So after getting some sleep and reading up on sunder, there's a little "side note" about ineffective weapons. Using a steel sword against an adamantine wall I would probably DM rule as ineffective, martial maneuver or not. There are real-life examples, though, of using softer materials against harder - for example, ancient Egyptians used bronze age technology to cut granite (which, process-wise, isn't too much different than how we do it today - it's now motorized and we use a little different materials). Besides, Thurgar the Red isn't smashing an adamantine wall with his trusty steel sword. He's smashing an adamantine wall with his enchanted sword of epic awsomeness made in some far off land out of unknown materials by pixies dancing around a forge in some sort of strange ritual that looks remnicient of Michael Jackson's Thriller.</blockquote>