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Anybody else HATE item creation feats?
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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 168089" data-attributes="member: 2572"><p>There are examples of people making and using magic items in fantasy literature including from Tolkein himself. Yes Gandolf used a magic sword he found in a troll cave but it was made in Gondolin by the elves in thier war against Melkor. These same elves were the focus of the Sillmarilian, where quite a large number of the characters both made and used magic items themselves. In the Lord of the Lings triligy itself let us not forget that the One Ring that everyone was after was made by Sauron himself, while the elves of Lorien were still making magic items such as the cloaks and the weybread. </p><p></p><p>In less haughty fiction there are some other examples as well, such as the pulp line of Magic the Gathering novels. Almost all the magic in these stories were created and used by the main characters. </p><p></p><p>Granted in Arthurian legend there are no examples but then Arthurian legend is very low magic unless you are Arthur, Merlin, or Morgan. </p><p></p><p>Yes you are right that most characters in fantasy literature do not make there own items. But even with item creation feats most PC will not make thier own items. This is limited to a few spellcasters who choose to focus this way instead of using there feats for other things like Metamagic, Improved Familiar, Turning feats, etc. 3e is about choices and some people find that they want to make thier own items. I think if you look at the overall percentage of characters out there, like in literature most do not even want to make items. Are the feats broken, I will say no and just say I agree with those who have already posted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brown Jenkin, post: 168089, member: 2572"] There are examples of people making and using magic items in fantasy literature including from Tolkein himself. Yes Gandolf used a magic sword he found in a troll cave but it was made in Gondolin by the elves in thier war against Melkor. These same elves were the focus of the Sillmarilian, where quite a large number of the characters both made and used magic items themselves. In the Lord of the Lings triligy itself let us not forget that the One Ring that everyone was after was made by Sauron himself, while the elves of Lorien were still making magic items such as the cloaks and the weybread. In less haughty fiction there are some other examples as well, such as the pulp line of Magic the Gathering novels. Almost all the magic in these stories were created and used by the main characters. Granted in Arthurian legend there are no examples but then Arthurian legend is very low magic unless you are Arthur, Merlin, or Morgan. Yes you are right that most characters in fantasy literature do not make there own items. But even with item creation feats most PC will not make thier own items. This is limited to a few spellcasters who choose to focus this way instead of using there feats for other things like Metamagic, Improved Familiar, Turning feats, etc. 3e is about choices and some people find that they want to make thier own items. I think if you look at the overall percentage of characters out there, like in literature most do not even want to make items. Are the feats broken, I will say no and just say I agree with those who have already posted. [/QUOTE]
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