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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 4552714" data-attributes="member: 20741">VGAP 3.5x was, and remains, the single best mutiplayer strategy game for the computer. Ever.  It has never been surpassed in its depth and strategic complexity. Yeah it starts slow, and the ending is a monster of micro management where a competent Borg player should nearly always win if the other 10 players have been stupid enough to let him live. But the middle game? The best strategy game on a PC. Ever. Diplomacy with Star Tek, Star Wars, TNG and BSG. Totally, totally rocked.Unfortunately, Tim Wiseman lost his way with Planets 4 and the hobby crashed and burned. VGAP 3.x sold over 100k copies. The overwhelming vast majority of those purchases were not in a store. Not an online purchase with Visa, or Mastercard or Paypal. You had to snail mail Tim CASH or a Money order back-in-the-day.  Envelopes. Stamps. Dough.  And the shareware players were so motivated that they did it, too.Now THAT was a game community.And it sold  well. Even made the CGW top 100, in an age when that was the shiznit.Yeah I played VGAP. Wrote a fair number of the racial strat guides too, including all that technical this before that turn processing strategies that really are the key to victory in a tight spot.  Sorry about that element of the game, but even that part had chesslike elements to it that glittered brightly at 3:00 a.m.. If you are not liking it much - it's because it's very early on in the game.  Give it time. It becomes a consuming passion.  But yeah, the graphics get in the way of enjoyment. 3.5x needs a serious graphics update.P.S.: You don't need a friendly 5 player game. You need a cutthroat take-no-prisoners 11 races game. The game is about conflict and scarce resources. 11 players is the only way to fly.</blockquote>

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