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Message: <blockquote data-quote="renbot" data-source="post: 1767249" data-attributes="member: 8038">Typically no, actually. The psionic versions can start off a little stronger (with appropriate element choice, or even, or lower) but with magic scaling they are generally left behind pretty quickly.No, not really.  Everyone keeps talking about how magic 'scales' so rapidly, but it goes up linearly if that and caps.  Psionic power points to up exponentially and then some.  So those power points are much less valuable at higher levels and thus their use is cheap.Augmentations come at the cost of other things. It is far from free, although some people seem to think so.This is the worst argument, so bad I can't believe it is being made.  A wizard will have 6 feats at 10th level, which he is stuck with forever.  A psion will have about 110 power points at 10th level, and can augment every single power every single time: increased damage, increased penetration, increased saving throw, increased duration, increased number of targets: all of it.  You show me a wizard who wouldn't burn a few extra spell slots (or higher ones) to get the benefits of every metamagic feat out there without ever having to burn feat.  Of course, you don't have to augment a power if you don't want to, just like our hypothetical wizard wouldn't have to use a metamagic feat, but when the psion would benefit from it he could regardless of his feat choices at that point.  Feat selection is one of the most important decisions 3.5 PCs make, and psions get them all for free.And as for comparing crystal shards with the conjurations that require a ranged touch attack, I have to wonder: are any of you even paying attention before you reply to one of these things?! The 3.5 touch attacks are ENERGY spells, and thus have hundreds of ways to protect against. Find me the core 3.5 that is a ranged touch, does damage and isn't an energy form. You can't: there aren't any.  Magic missile is pretty close.For a single pp the psion gets a d6 damage at close range that requires a to hit roll and is able to be foiled by concealment. Of course it has no save nor SR.Magic missile, a single first level spell, does up to 5d4+1 (can be spread to 5 close together targets, d4+1 is roughly the same as a d6) at medium range, requires no attack roll, ignores concealment, is a force effect, but it does allow for SR.They both have their strengths and weaknesses of course. But still, mm does bypass energy resistance pretty well.Of course, I also apply DR to crystal shard as it creates a physical object that has a damage type. But, that is a bit iffy in the rules so I shouldnt mention it.First of all, we all know magic missle is broken and always has been; it is still around for nostalgic reasons.  That being said, it is a first level spell with another first level spell that 100% negates it.  DR: extremely rare, hard to come by.  Energy resistance: every spellcasting class gets it, everyone has access to it at a low level.</blockquote>

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