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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1768106" data-attributes="member: 478">Has he? Only thing I have seen is, that the sorcerer's spellcasting and the psion's power manifestation will be about equal (with a slight advantage to the sorcerer), if - and only if - the sorcerer is able to use the whole alotment of spell slots! A premise I made from the beginning in every comparison I made between those classes so far. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  But I have already addressed this in the other thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />   Best is removed of all items, I think, or just using the stuff both have, since I doubt magic items are meant as an inherent part of class balance, as they are supposed to be balanced to each other all by themselves. It's an inherent part of the balance, that all classes have magical stuff, tho, but that's a difference.  In the "post your psion/sorcerer thread" I said, that I believe metamagic rods distort the image, and the psion I have posted will work perfectly well without the items I gave him (especially psionatrix and third eye), while the sorcerer will totally fall apart without the metamagic rods.    The MT is potent at very high levels (close to epic). But the MT is also incredibly weak at low to mid levels.    There have been a few already by various posters. I think one mentioned a psionic character with Astral Construct totally overshadowing the rest of the group in play.    Not me, at least. I neither fear psions nor loathe them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  And while we havn't used the XPH for obvious reasons (why should we use something when we all know that it is not what we want?), we have had extensive experience with the very similar psionic system from 3.0 including the material from ITCK and MS.  Bye Thanee</blockquote>

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