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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1768136" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>And if you would read what I said:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you would understand.</p><p></p><p>If he is having no problem with other casters then there is no reason he should be having any problem with the psion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, power points are a limited resource. Several people on this thread seem to think that just because the psion has a few hundred this means that it accounts for a great deal. However, when converting spells to equivalent power points and adding them up the other caster types tend to be way ahead, plus their spells scale much more freely. So, obviously the versitility is paid for, even if it is not always easy to see. These power points run out very rapdily, especially if one wants to have full effect for everything (which is sometimes very necissary to be able to be effective).</p><p></p><p>Note that the seer above is going to run out of pp very fast. Between doing a few things in combat, having a few buffs up now and then, and useing out of combat powers he was bled dry pretty fast and it looks like he did almost nothing in combat. Looks like if anything the dm should be worried about that player being able to have fun rather than wondering how to nerf his character.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the astral construct overshadowing the party, was the guy a fairly high level constructor with a bunch of everything pointing towards just making constructs?</p><p></p><p>Even then though, someone focused on summon monster would do better. In nearly every case the summon monster is simply better than the equivalent level astral construct. With the constructor thrown in then the astral construct starts to be able to compete.</p><p></p><p>But then most people think that summon monster isnt terribly strong anyway most of the time (there are a few levels which are exceptions in certain circumstances).</p><p></p><p>So, if they are having a problem with astral construct, and the guy isnt a constructor, then they would absolutely 'hate' having a summoning guy in the party.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the comparison in the other thread. After X number of rounds (whatever X was) the psion was out of pp but the sorc wasnt terribly far behind in damage (depending on what the sorc did it was somewhere between 40 and 70, but it was a whole lot of total damage either way). Then, after that the psion was done for the day, but the sorc just kept on going. Sure, he wasnt doing massive amounts of whatever, but he had lots of utility slots open and could still deal impressive amounts of damage (overall the total wound up being that for pure damage the sorc could do nearly twice the damage of the psion in the day). The comparison definately made the psion feel wanting in the end.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1768136, member: 5777"] And if you would read what I said: Then you would understand. If he is having no problem with other casters then there is no reason he should be having any problem with the psion. Also, power points are a limited resource. Several people on this thread seem to think that just because the psion has a few hundred this means that it accounts for a great deal. However, when converting spells to equivalent power points and adding them up the other caster types tend to be way ahead, plus their spells scale much more freely. So, obviously the versitility is paid for, even if it is not always easy to see. These power points run out very rapdily, especially if one wants to have full effect for everything (which is sometimes very necissary to be able to be effective). Note that the seer above is going to run out of pp very fast. Between doing a few things in combat, having a few buffs up now and then, and useing out of combat powers he was bled dry pretty fast and it looks like he did almost nothing in combat. Looks like if anything the dm should be worried about that player being able to have fun rather than wondering how to nerf his character. As for the astral construct overshadowing the party, was the guy a fairly high level constructor with a bunch of everything pointing towards just making constructs? Even then though, someone focused on summon monster would do better. In nearly every case the summon monster is simply better than the equivalent level astral construct. With the constructor thrown in then the astral construct starts to be able to compete. But then most people think that summon monster isnt terribly strong anyway most of the time (there are a few levels which are exceptions in certain circumstances). So, if they are having a problem with astral construct, and the guy isnt a constructor, then they would absolutely 'hate' having a summoning guy in the party. As for the comparison in the other thread. After X number of rounds (whatever X was) the psion was out of pp but the sorc wasnt terribly far behind in damage (depending on what the sorc did it was somewhere between 40 and 70, but it was a whole lot of total damage either way). Then, after that the psion was done for the day, but the sorc just kept on going. Sure, he wasnt doing massive amounts of whatever, but he had lots of utility slots open and could still deal impressive amounts of damage (overall the total wound up being that for pure damage the sorc could do nearly twice the damage of the psion in the day). The comparison definately made the psion feel wanting in the end. [/QUOTE]
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