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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1768204" data-attributes="member: 5777">I just went back and reread a good portion of that thread and no, the sorc did not have a metamagic rod.The reason I gave such a broad spread above was because with one (the one where the sorc is farther behind) he used no metamagics at all, but the other (where he is almost the same) the sorc used metamagic (not a rod).but then I had the numbers a little off. Without any metamagics the sorc was behind by 85 points of damage at round 11, but with them both useing empower each time (which the psion could not do with the same speed as the sorc) the difference was 70 points instead.After that, the sorc went on to deal about as much damage again as he had done before (actually he did more than he did in the first 11 rounds, but that doesnt matter much).If the sorc had been useing even a single metamagic rod then there would'nt even have been much of a comparison since the sorc would've blasted the psion out of the water.So, the sorc keeps up pretty well in damage and then the psion is done for the day. But the sorc still has a bunch of utility spells left and, if necissary, can deal an incredible amount of damage still.It isnt all about combat. Say that you only have 3 combats, if the psion goes full out, and the sorc does too, then the psion will deal more damage.However, if they later on need a few buff spells cast, need a couple of utility spells, get into a few minor skirmeshes, have a few fake outs, whatever. The sorc is in a 'much' better position than the psion.Without any extra feats at all and just going straight head to head damage the psion is decently far ahead for damage (oh, btw, this is only for fire or cold, if useing electricity or sonic then the sorc is doing the same damage or ahead on damage suddenly). Decently far ahead in this case means 'up to 85 points of damage when the total damages are around 500.So yes, under favorable circumstances, useing the best energy for damage, and blowing all of their load they can do more damage than the sorc.But then they are done.Where the sorc still has lots of options.Now, who says that isnt balanced? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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