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<blockquote data-quote="cignus_pfaccari" data-source="post: 1774800" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>You'll find, if you look in XPH and compare spells, that psions do certain effects much better than arcane or divine casters, and others much worse. Heck, check out this thread and the artillery thread for contrasting examples. In general, psions are much better at using mind-affecting powers, but aren't very good at helping their friends. They also do have a distinctly different feel.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We used the Force in one D&D game; we had elven and gnomish force-users; it worked reasonably well, though you'd probably need to limit the Force skills to special classes and not make them nearly as cool as the Jedi guardian and consular (who, after all, get good saves because of setting considerations). </p><p></p><p>Of course, we also had random psions, too. They had about the same level of involvement among the PCs (i.e. no more than dabbling), but were there and affected each other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gone. Mental combat is gone, too; the offensive and defensive modes are now powers that have been folded into the main power set. Of course, it didn't resolve using a chart; certain offensive modes affected save DCs of the defense modes, so you did need to look at the chart, but you still used the roll to determine what happens.</p><p></p><p>Find a Borders or Barnes & Noble, kick someone out of a chair, and sit down and have a look at XPH. It's leagues better, I think.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, you can play Eberron without using the XPH. However, one of the potential opponents, the Quori, are written as using psionics, and the creator of the setting stated that while you can substitute them as sorcerers, they're not nearly as cool.</p><p></p><p>Brad</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cignus_pfaccari, post: 1774800, member: 14557"] You'll find, if you look in XPH and compare spells, that psions do certain effects much better than arcane or divine casters, and others much worse. Heck, check out this thread and the artillery thread for contrasting examples. In general, psions are much better at using mind-affecting powers, but aren't very good at helping their friends. They also do have a distinctly different feel. We used the Force in one D&D game; we had elven and gnomish force-users; it worked reasonably well, though you'd probably need to limit the Force skills to special classes and not make them nearly as cool as the Jedi guardian and consular (who, after all, get good saves because of setting considerations). Of course, we also had random psions, too. They had about the same level of involvement among the PCs (i.e. no more than dabbling), but were there and affected each other. Gone. Mental combat is gone, too; the offensive and defensive modes are now powers that have been folded into the main power set. Of course, it didn't resolve using a chart; certain offensive modes affected save DCs of the defense modes, so you did need to look at the chart, but you still used the roll to determine what happens. Find a Borders or Barnes & Noble, kick someone out of a chair, and sit down and have a look at XPH. It's leagues better, I think. True, you can play Eberron without using the XPH. However, one of the potential opponents, the Quori, are written as using psionics, and the creator of the setting stated that while you can substitute them as sorcerers, they're not nearly as cool. Brad [/QUOTE]
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