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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 7522766" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>Well, seems we have different definitions of 'theft' and neither is going to be convinced by the other. So no point in continuing that discussion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, and more than I feel that you are reading and comprehending what I am writing. But no point in discussing that either.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So you believe in situational ethics. So do I, just not nearly as much as you do.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. But I thought we had moved onto ethics.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. You think the laws were written only for the benefit of Disney et al. I agree they certainly lobby and benefit from the current laws, but I also see the current laws of benefit to the independent creator as well. I know many artists, authors, and creators that depend upon copyright and intellectual property laws as the primary means to protect their works. Though they all recognize that since enforcement is so difficult, expensive, and ineffective, that the existence of the laws only serve to protect them from those who act ethically according to the laws. If those laws were changed, it is likely that they would lose that protection (even as limited as it is).</p><p></p><p>But, I'm not sure I'm interesting in discussing this either. Though maybe you have some interesting insights on the subject?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, I was trying to get you to look at what I see as a disconnect in your logic and ethical views, not insult you. But, obviously that didn't work, so not sure any follow up on that would be constructive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 7522766, member: 6804070"] Well, seems we have different definitions of 'theft' and neither is going to be convinced by the other. So no point in continuing that discussion. Yes, and more than I feel that you are reading and comprehending what I am writing. But no point in discussing that either. So you believe in situational ethics. So do I, just not nearly as much as you do. Agreed. But I thought we had moved onto ethics. I disagree. You think the laws were written only for the benefit of Disney et al. I agree they certainly lobby and benefit from the current laws, but I also see the current laws of benefit to the independent creator as well. I know many artists, authors, and creators that depend upon copyright and intellectual property laws as the primary means to protect their works. Though they all recognize that since enforcement is so difficult, expensive, and ineffective, that the existence of the laws only serve to protect them from those who act ethically according to the laws. If those laws were changed, it is likely that they would lose that protection (even as limited as it is). But, I'm not sure I'm interesting in discussing this either. Though maybe you have some interesting insights on the subject? Sorry, I was trying to get you to look at what I see as a disconnect in your logic and ethical views, not insult you. But, obviously that didn't work, so not sure any follow up on that would be constructive. [/QUOTE]
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