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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7523180"><p>Good post. I'm trying to figure out how to respond without typing for the next few hours. I'll offer just a couple of things, and since I think you're pretty smart I think you can probably figure out what the full essay would look like:</p><p></p><p>1) As I mentioned above, I believe that the role of copyright (and patent) laws is to provide sufficient incentive for creators to create, an activity for which society has an interest. I do NOT believe that the purpose of those laws should be to protect any kind of "natural right" to creative works, regardless of whether or not such a natural right exists. I think the latter interpretation, now common, is the result of a long term strategy by content companies to persuade us of it. The phrase "Intellectual Property" is, itself, an example of that campaign.</p><p></p><p>2) As I've also mentioned, I believe it's pretty clear that current IP laws (in the US and Europe) have given authors more and more rights solely because of extensive lobbying by corporations trying to lay claim to every penny that might be generated by their "property". Those laws are not the result of thoughtful reflection on the proper role of IP protections.</p><p></p><p>3) It's pretty obvious to me that if we had all been dutiful citizens 20 years ago the recording companies would have never, on their own, have adapted to new technologies, and we'd all still be buying our music on CDs. (They LOVED that model.) The result of all the upheaval in the industry has been that now there is a much, much broader array of music available, and a much larger number of musicians are making money producing it. Sure, the top performers may be earning less from direct royalties, but there is a much longer tail of income. The only reason that happened is that a lot of fans wanted their music in a different format (as iTunes demonstrated, it wasn't solely because they wanted it for free, either. They were willing to pay, they just wanted it delivered in a certain way.) But at the time, the recording companies...and Metallica...were making the EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS that you guys are making in this thread.</p><p></p><p>4) You make a great point about criminals policing themselves. One extreme is definitely that we all just make up our own rules. Clearly that's not going to work. But the other extreme is that we all dutifully follow the laws that are dictated by the kinds of companies that can afford to pay for lobbyists. I don't think either extreme is healthy; there's an optimal balance point somewhere in the middle, probably closer to the law side than the anarchy side.</p><p></p><p>Toodles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7523180"] Good post. I'm trying to figure out how to respond without typing for the next few hours. I'll offer just a couple of things, and since I think you're pretty smart I think you can probably figure out what the full essay would look like: 1) As I mentioned above, I believe that the role of copyright (and patent) laws is to provide sufficient incentive for creators to create, an activity for which society has an interest. I do NOT believe that the purpose of those laws should be to protect any kind of "natural right" to creative works, regardless of whether or not such a natural right exists. I think the latter interpretation, now common, is the result of a long term strategy by content companies to persuade us of it. The phrase "Intellectual Property" is, itself, an example of that campaign. 2) As I've also mentioned, I believe it's pretty clear that current IP laws (in the US and Europe) have given authors more and more rights solely because of extensive lobbying by corporations trying to lay claim to every penny that might be generated by their "property". Those laws are not the result of thoughtful reflection on the proper role of IP protections. 3) It's pretty obvious to me that if we had all been dutiful citizens 20 years ago the recording companies would have never, on their own, have adapted to new technologies, and we'd all still be buying our music on CDs. (They LOVED that model.) The result of all the upheaval in the industry has been that now there is a much, much broader array of music available, and a much larger number of musicians are making money producing it. Sure, the top performers may be earning less from direct royalties, but there is a much longer tail of income. The only reason that happened is that a lot of fans wanted their music in a different format (as iTunes demonstrated, it wasn't solely because they wanted it for free, either. They were willing to pay, they just wanted it delivered in a certain way.) But at the time, the recording companies...and Metallica...were making the EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS that you guys are making in this thread. 4) You make a great point about criminals policing themselves. One extreme is definitely that we all just make up our own rules. Clearly that's not going to work. But the other extreme is that we all dutifully follow the laws that are dictated by the kinds of companies that can afford to pay for lobbyists. I don't think either extreme is healthy; there's an optimal balance point somewhere in the middle, probably closer to the law side than the anarchy side. Toodles. [/QUOTE]
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