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<blockquote data-quote="Keenath" data-source="post: 4759033" data-attributes="member: 59792"><p>Totally missing the point, there. The point is not to <em>give up</em> your actions to let somebody else do something fun.</p><p></p><p>The point is to take your cleric, for example, and concentrate your power selections and feat choices and such on making yourself an awesome leader, instead of becoming a mediocre leader who can deal out a lot of damage once per fight, stick down an enemy once per fight, and build a wall once per fight. Because you may have only five powers plus two dailies, and by the time you pull out three of those to go into off-topic choices, you're left with a pretty slim selection of powers -- and that's when you start hearing, "Oh, I guess I'll <em>lance of faith</em> again."</p><p></p><p>The point is that people who say they don't have "enough options" are often spread too thin. Taking more options that support a particular aspect of your character means you get to do more things <em>while playing towards that aspect</em>.</p><p></p><p>This can easily happen without even jumping outside your class, actually. Looking over the Cleric, for example, if you start mixing wisdom and strength based powers, you can easily halve your action choices in any given situation. If half your powers are ranged and half are melee, and you know you want to be in melee, you suddenly are looking at two or three choices instead of half a dozen. Going to range does the same thing, and often the response from the player is, "I don't have enough options!" No, you have plenty of options, but they're a schizophrenic mishmash. (This gets particularly bad when you start taking feats to play two different positions -- some that help you when using a weapon, some that benefit your implement powers, whatever.)</p><p></p><p>When you're really focusing on your role, it's not boring to use Sacred Flame for the third time in a row, because you're tossing out temporary HP to the people who need it. And it's not boring to keep throwing down Righteous Brands because you're constantly deciding which ally needs the boost most.</p><p></p><p>It's not about who kills the dragon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Keenath, post: 4759033, member: 59792"] Totally missing the point, there. The point is not to [I]give up[/I] your actions to let somebody else do something fun. The point is to take your cleric, for example, and concentrate your power selections and feat choices and such on making yourself an awesome leader, instead of becoming a mediocre leader who can deal out a lot of damage once per fight, stick down an enemy once per fight, and build a wall once per fight. Because you may have only five powers plus two dailies, and by the time you pull out three of those to go into off-topic choices, you're left with a pretty slim selection of powers -- and that's when you start hearing, "Oh, I guess I'll [I]lance of faith[/I] again." The point is that people who say they don't have "enough options" are often spread too thin. Taking more options that support a particular aspect of your character means you get to do more things [I]while playing towards that aspect[/I]. This can easily happen without even jumping outside your class, actually. Looking over the Cleric, for example, if you start mixing wisdom and strength based powers, you can easily halve your action choices in any given situation. If half your powers are ranged and half are melee, and you know you want to be in melee, you suddenly are looking at two or three choices instead of half a dozen. Going to range does the same thing, and often the response from the player is, "I don't have enough options!" No, you have plenty of options, but they're a schizophrenic mishmash. (This gets particularly bad when you start taking feats to play two different positions -- some that help you when using a weapon, some that benefit your implement powers, whatever.) When you're really focusing on your role, it's not boring to use Sacred Flame for the third time in a row, because you're tossing out temporary HP to the people who need it. And it's not boring to keep throwing down Righteous Brands because you're constantly deciding which ally needs the boost most. It's not about who kills the dragon. [/QUOTE]
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