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<blockquote data-quote="Verision" data-source="post: 5227511" data-attributes="member: 72236">I agree with you, for the most part. The vast majority of the game does work fine. I mean, it's not like my group has house rules for half of the powers or anything ridiculous like that. Most of our house rules deal with DCs, loosening restrictions (my PCs like to &quot;power game&quot;), strengthening monsters (so they are a challenge for the &quot;power gaming&quot; PCs; yes it is weird to make players more powerful and then turn around and make the monsters more powerful too), etc. Maybe my use of &quot;unforgivable&quot; is a bit of an over exaggeration; it's not like we went back to 3.x or anything. However, the reason I call it &quot;unforgivable&quot; is that I no longer trust the errata, or any of the new rules in the new books, at face value. I can't, not after WotC screwed the pooch so badly on the DCs. Plus, the crazy skill challenge DCs have left a bad taste in the mouths of my PCs; they no longer trust/like/accept skill challenges. Instead, we usually just role play through them, or work around them, or use a very loose &quot;skill challenge&quot; mechanic that they (my PCs) are more willing to accept (basically its opposed rolls, instead of skill checks vs static DCs), though we don't use that very often either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Verision, post: 5227511, member: 72236"] I agree with you, for the most part. The vast majority of the game does work fine. I mean, it's not like my group has house rules for half of the powers or anything ridiculous like that. Most of our house rules deal with DCs, loosening restrictions (my PCs like to "power game"), strengthening monsters (so they are a challenge for the "power gaming" PCs; yes it is weird to make players more powerful and then turn around and make the monsters more powerful too), etc. Maybe my use of "unforgivable" is a bit of an over exaggeration; it's not like we went back to 3.x or anything. However, the reason I call it "unforgivable" is that I no longer trust the errata, or any of the new rules in the new books, at face value. I can't, not after WotC screwed the pooch so badly on the DCs. Plus, the crazy skill challenge DCs have left a bad taste in the mouths of my PCs; they no longer trust/like/accept skill challenges. Instead, we usually just role play through them, or work around them, or use a very loose "skill challenge" mechanic that they (my PCs) are more willing to accept (basically its opposed rolls, instead of skill checks vs static DCs), though we don't use that very often either. [/QUOTE]

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