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Message: <blockquote data-quote="slwoyach" data-source="post: 5512698" data-attributes="member: 1022">I've never had any of these problems people talk about nor have I ever gamed with anyone who had these problems.  If you lose strength it affects your attack, damage, skill rolls and encumbrance.  The only one of those things you need to look up is encumbrance, and only if you're close to your limit or you lose a lot of strength.  All the other ability scores are even less troublesome than strength.  Not once in 10 years of playing 3e did a game come to a screeching halt or even become significantly slowed down by ability damage/drain.Level drain is the thing I have a problem with, it:A)  Is crippling, depending on class far moreso than ability damage.B)  Is a true math nightmare, much more goes into losing levels than losing ability points.C)  Is completely nonsensical.  Your "experience" level is based upon your knowledge and "experience."  The only logical explanation for level loss is to lose the knowledge and experience that grants your level, meaning it would have to wipe your memory clean.  I wouldn't object to a creature or spell that did so, but it would wipe everything else as well.  If you're 8th level and get knocked down to 6th level then you should also lose all memories of everything that occured since 6th level.  If the entire party loses levels that would lead to a really confusing "why are we here?" moment.</blockquote>