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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2257693" data-attributes="member: 4937">Have you ever coached football, or for that matter do you follow sports like football and basketball to any degree?&nbsp; It's not a coincidence that some of the best atheletes in the game are also some of its better spoken.&nbsp; Players like Michael Jordon, Tim Duncan, or David Robinson excel in large part not just because of thier exceptional physical talents, but because of thier drive, initiative, and understanding of the game.&nbsp; There have been men of equal atheletic ability playing the game as Jordon (Sean Kemp comes to mind), but noone of his combination of atheletic ability and intelligence.&nbsp;&nbsp; In football, you are continually hearing about quarterbacks and wide recievers, who, though they possess the necessary speed, agility, strength and height to play the position at the highest level lack the mental skills to develop thier talents - while at the same time men of lesser stature and speed make the pro-bowl because of thier greater awareness and decision making ability on the field.I think maybe the problem is that you equate intelligence solely with the sort of mental abilities displayed by the sort of nerds who enjoy role playing games (like me), but I think that in fact intelligence is a much broader characteristic which encompasses the capacity to learn skills and apply oneself to any task.&nbsp; And, I don't think that this is something any further removed from real life than having a single number represent strength (which is ridiculous because thier is a tremendous difference between being strong and being powerful), or a single number represent dexterity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2257693, member: 4937"] Have you ever coached football, or for that matter do you follow sports like football and basketball to any degree? It's not a coincidence that some of the best atheletes in the game are also some of its better spoken. Players like Michael Jordon, Tim Duncan, or David Robinson excel in large part not just because of thier exceptional physical talents, but because of thier drive, initiative, and understanding of the game. There have been men of equal atheletic ability playing the game as Jordon (Sean Kemp comes to mind), but noone of his combination of atheletic ability and intelligence. In football, you are continually hearing about quarterbacks and wide recievers, who, though they possess the necessary speed, agility, strength and height to play the position at the highest level lack the mental skills to develop thier talents - while at the same time men of lesser stature and speed make the pro-bowl because of thier greater awareness and decision making ability on the field. I think maybe the problem is that you equate intelligence solely with the sort of mental abilities displayed by the sort of nerds who enjoy role playing games (like me), but I think that in fact intelligence is a much broader characteristic which encompasses the capacity to learn skills and apply oneself to any task. And, I don't think that this is something any further removed from real life than having a single number represent strength (which is ridiculous because thier is a tremendous difference between being strong and being powerful), or a single number represent dexterity. [/QUOTE]

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