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<blockquote data-quote="Jubles" data-source="post: 7080770" data-attributes="member: 6875874"><p>I agree. I wish that bards did not get access to expertise. Speaking of Scanlan, I believe part of the player's recent motivation regarding that character relates to his near perfection in persuasion and deception. Persuasion in particular perturbs me with modifiers of 13+. It removes a component of free will from the game if the DM is willing to let them roll to persuade often enough. I wish it was still called diplomacy instead of persuasion. High persuasion can too often be inferred to mean that a good d20 roll will convince a new NPC to act against their own best interests because of a stranger's flowery rhetoric, regardless of context. It's simple to manage it as the DM but it's an occasional source of tension because the player can feel stymied.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jubles, post: 7080770, member: 6875874"] I agree. I wish that bards did not get access to expertise. Speaking of Scanlan, I believe part of the player's recent motivation regarding that character relates to his near perfection in persuasion and deception. Persuasion in particular perturbs me with modifiers of 13+. It removes a component of free will from the game if the DM is willing to let them roll to persuade often enough. I wish it was still called diplomacy instead of persuasion. High persuasion can too often be inferred to mean that a good d20 roll will convince a new NPC to act against their own best interests because of a stranger's flowery rhetoric, regardless of context. It's simple to manage it as the DM but it's an occasional source of tension because the player can feel stymied. [/QUOTE]
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