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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet" data-source="post: 7081160" data-attributes="member: 6689161">Wow.&nbsp; You got it right.&nbsp; I very much love 5e.&nbsp; That is not in question.&nbsp; However, scarcity can make for some excitement.&nbsp; When everyone has a full complement of spells their use and unavailability change things.I recall playing AD&amp;D (1st) with a wizard in the party.&nbsp; He was out of spells and was cornered by a wounded Minotaur.&nbsp; He did what he had to do: he unsheathed a +2+3 vs. LMG dagger and rolled well!&nbsp; He stuck that beast for the last of his hit points.&nbsp; Exciting given his THACO was low (he was a Magic-User!) and how critical it was for him to do so.&nbsp; Now?&nbsp; Blast him with another 3d10 firebolt.&nbsp; Less drama!But then, everyone was nerfed compared to 5e....But with bards, it is about imagery for me.&nbsp; If the bard can be a primary caster, I am less interested in everything else.&nbsp; When they can literally lift spells from other lists, their subtlety and different-ness is gone for me.It is just preference but tons of flashy spells does not create the imagery of bard (for me).&nbsp; Some people like them and I am great with that.For me they are like monks or druids.&nbsp; I am glad there are some people that like them.&nbsp; Just not generally me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet, post: 7081160, member: 6689161"] Wow. You got it right. I very much love 5e. That is not in question. However, scarcity can make for some excitement. When everyone has a full complement of spells their use and unavailability change things. I recall playing AD&D (1st) with a wizard in the party. He was out of spells and was cornered by a wounded Minotaur. He did what he had to do: he unsheathed a +2+3 vs. LMG dagger and rolled well! He stuck that beast for the last of his hit points. Exciting given his THACO was low (he was a Magic-User!) and how critical it was for him to do so. Now? Blast him with another 3d10 firebolt. Less drama! But then, everyone was nerfed compared to 5e.... But with bards, it is about imagery for me. If the bard can be a primary caster, I am less interested in everything else. When they can literally lift spells from other lists, their subtlety and different-ness is gone for me. It is just preference but tons of flashy spells does not create the imagery of bard (for me). Some people like them and I am great with that. For me they are like monks or druids. I am glad there are some people that like them. Just not generally me. [/QUOTE]

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