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<blockquote data-quote="Afrodyte" data-source="post: 7082828" data-attributes="member: 8713"><p>When I think of a bard, I think of them in mythical rather than historical terms. I think Orpheus, whose music had power even over Hades. I think the sirens who could lure sailors to their deaths with their song. I think the Pied Piper, who played his flute to rid a city of rats and later, of children, when he wasn't paid his fee. I think Sheherazade, who kept death at bay through storytelling. I think Luthien, whose song could enchant and destroy and whose dance cast a spell of drowsiness on Morgoth himself. I think all the countless minstrels who learned or perfected their musical gifts in strange otherworlds. I think of folktales about musicians who summoned ghosts, demons or even the Devil with their playing. I think of those blues and rock legends who were said to have sold their souls to be able to play as well as they did.</p><p></p><p>When I play a bard, I want to be able to do things like: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sing or play up a literal storm, pelting enemies with hail or striking them lightning</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Overwhelm creatures with joy, sorrow, fear, rage or confusion</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Compel creatures to dance to my tune until their feet are bloody tatters</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Utterly fascinate creatures so that they can do nothing but watch me and listen</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Animate inanimate objects or make them do other unnatural things (like bleed or weep)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Summon otherworldly beings who would do me a favor just so I can keep singing, playing or dancing</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Open a porta to another other world by singing, playing an instrument or dancing</li> </ul><p>If I have a criticism of the mechanics for the D&D bard (3e-5e), it's that it focuses a bit too much on having a little bit of what other classes have and not on solidifying it as its own interesting and unique mythic archetype.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Afrodyte, post: 7082828, member: 8713"] When I think of a bard, I think of them in mythical rather than historical terms. I think Orpheus, whose music had power even over Hades. I think the sirens who could lure sailors to their deaths with their song. I think the Pied Piper, who played his flute to rid a city of rats and later, of children, when he wasn't paid his fee. I think Sheherazade, who kept death at bay through storytelling. I think Luthien, whose song could enchant and destroy and whose dance cast a spell of drowsiness on Morgoth himself. I think all the countless minstrels who learned or perfected their musical gifts in strange otherworlds. I think of folktales about musicians who summoned ghosts, demons or even the Devil with their playing. I think of those blues and rock legends who were said to have sold their souls to be able to play as well as they did. When I play a bard, I want to be able to do things like:[LIST][*]Sing or play up a literal storm, pelting enemies with hail or striking them lightning [*]Overwhelm creatures with joy, sorrow, fear, rage or confusion [*]Compel creatures to dance to my tune until their feet are bloody tatters [*]Utterly fascinate creatures so that they can do nothing but watch me and listen [*]Animate inanimate objects or make them do other unnatural things (like bleed or weep) [*]Summon otherworldly beings who would do me a favor just so I can keep singing, playing or dancing [*]Open a porta to another other world by singing, playing an instrument or dancing[/LIST] If I have a criticism of the mechanics for the D&D bard (3e-5e), it's that it focuses a bit too much on having a little bit of what other classes have and not on solidifying it as its own interesting and unique mythic archetype. [/QUOTE]
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