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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7084670" data-attributes="member: 82504">I hate clerics -&nbsp; I cannot picture any player wanting to play a bloody bible banger, Of course their church makes them the most influential people anywhere in a quasi-medieval world so maybe that alone is a reason for someone to want to play them. The church is more socially powerful than kings. I hate how chain and mace wielding miracle workers utterly lack presence in legend and myth&nbsp; on top of that with weapon flexibility they or Paladins are seriously redundant and paladins actually have legendary basis as the shining knight. Heck they are piss poor representation of the miraculous priestly types we do have in myth which are basically cloth wearers.I hate their ongoing influence on the GAME DESIGN, I hate how they were and largely still seem REQUIRED by the games assumptions. Then their players had to be bribed with over poweredness in some editions of the game so they were CODzilla. This class even ruins the concept of miracles.&nbsp; The sheer predictability of their miracles is obnoxious it makes miracles mundane as heck... Miracles are supposed to be special right? and totally flexible but definitely not in the players control. How can you call them miracles????&nbsp;OH and I do not mean a word of the above against anyone who likes the disgusting game ruining misflavored heaps of poorly concieved garbage.all is good.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7084670, member: 82504"] I hate clerics - I cannot picture any player wanting to play a bloody bible banger, Of course their church makes them the most influential people anywhere in a quasi-medieval world so maybe that alone is a reason for someone to want to play them. The church is more socially powerful than kings. I hate how chain and mace wielding miracle workers utterly lack presence in legend and myth on top of that with weapon flexibility they or Paladins are seriously redundant and paladins actually have legendary basis as the shining knight. Heck they are piss poor representation of the miraculous priestly types we do have in myth which are basically cloth wearers. I hate their ongoing influence on the GAME DESIGN, I hate how they were and largely still seem REQUIRED by the games assumptions. Then their players had to be bribed with over poweredness in some editions of the game so they were CODzilla. This class even ruins the concept of miracles. The sheer predictability of their miracles is obnoxious it makes miracles mundane as heck... Miracles are supposed to be special right? and totally flexible but definitely not in the players control. How can you call them miracles???? OH and I do not mean a word of the above against anyone who likes the disgusting game ruining misflavored heaps of poorly concieved garbage. all is good. [/QUOTE]

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