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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7086930" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>Related back to your earlier quote:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So the bard doesn't just sing (and really doesn't have to sing at all). The bard can beef up the fighter, the rogue, or the wizard with inspiration as a bonus action, and then still cast a spell or go into combat. To me a bard has always been a type of rogue/wizard. Being able to increase your ally's chance of success and still getting your full turn is pretty darn good. They are decent fighters (well, the way 5e works, everybody is the same in terms of to-hit ability now), has some useful spells for combat, can help the rest of the party fight better, and can also help heal them after the battle. </p><p></p><p>I can't think of any other class that can help buff up the party and still attack in the same round. There might be a spell or something, but I can't think of anything off-hand.</p><p></p><p>As I pointed out in an earlier post, I don't consider them as always being the musical type. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Why have any other class that casts spells then? For that matter, when a rogue hits somebody with a sword, why isn't he a fighter?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, they are often presented that way, and in pictures they always have an instrument, because how else would you know it's a bard. However, in my campaign, that's exactly the point. You see a guy in leather or brigandine armor, a sword at their side, walking down the street, they could be a rogue, fighter, bard, even some sort of spellcaster. Depending on the world, a cleric as well. </p><p></p><p>And the bard can encourage others <em>and</em> throw the spear of lightning. In the same round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 7086930, member: 6778044"] Related back to your earlier quote: So the bard doesn't just sing (and really doesn't have to sing at all). The bard can beef up the fighter, the rogue, or the wizard with inspiration as a bonus action, and then still cast a spell or go into combat. To me a bard has always been a type of rogue/wizard. Being able to increase your ally's chance of success and still getting your full turn is pretty darn good. They are decent fighters (well, the way 5e works, everybody is the same in terms of to-hit ability now), has some useful spells for combat, can help the rest of the party fight better, and can also help heal them after the battle. I can't think of any other class that can help buff up the party and still attack in the same round. There might be a spell or something, but I can't think of anything off-hand. As I pointed out in an earlier post, I don't consider them as always being the musical type. Why have any other class that casts spells then? For that matter, when a rogue hits somebody with a sword, why isn't he a fighter? Sure, they are often presented that way, and in pictures they always have an instrument, because how else would you know it's a bard. However, in my campaign, that's exactly the point. You see a guy in leather or brigandine armor, a sword at their side, walking down the street, they could be a rogue, fighter, bard, even some sort of spellcaster. Depending on the world, a cleric as well. And the bard can encourage others [I]and[/I] throw the spear of lightning. In the same round. [/QUOTE]
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