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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7091025" data-attributes="member: 996">I respect that feeling, but 5e does intentionally try to appeal to D&amp;D traditionalists, and that appeal to tradition, traditionally, has been a big part of D&amp;D's traditional appeal.Also D&amp;D is doing pretty well, atm, so clearly all that appeal to tradition is popular, so we could appeal to that popular appeal, too, even if would be an appeal to popularity...&nbsp; &nbsp;It's not, it just called either a Lore Bard or a Valor Bard.&nbsp; You'll have to wait for a certain sort of 3pp supplement before you'll get a College like the one you allude to.Also, as it /is/ called a bard......then, the things bards do could be said to be 'barding.'&nbsp; I mean, we have the fighter, and what it does isn't just called 'fighting,' it's supposed to be best at fighting, so clearly the bard should be best at barding...&nbsp; Which begs the question... ... can bards wear barding?&nbsp; No?&nbsp; ...what if the bard is prancing along, making clip-clop noises with a pair of coconut shells?&nbsp; ...No?&nbsp; But if a bard can't wear barding, then how could a bard go out barding without barding, at all?&nbsp; And, if a bard were barding, would he ride a mount, or would the mount wear him?&nbsp; Since a mount wearing barding has a higher AC, that would fit the 5e bard's support function, as he's handing out an AC buff by riding the mount while barding, or as barding, functionally, either way.&nbsp; And there's nothing silly about having a better AC, now is there?&nbsp; So bards aren't silly.Arguing about bards on line, though, that can get pretty silly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7091025, member: 996"] I respect that feeling, but 5e does intentionally try to appeal to D&D traditionalists, and that appeal to tradition, traditionally, has been a big part of D&D's traditional appeal. Also D&D is doing pretty well, atm, so clearly all that appeal to tradition is popular, so we could appeal to that popular appeal, too, even if would be an appeal to popularity... It's not, it just called either a Lore Bard or a Valor Bard. You'll have to wait for a certain sort of 3pp supplement before you'll get a College like the one you allude to. Also, as it /is/ called a bard... ...then, the things bards do could be said to be 'barding.' I mean, we have the fighter, and what it does isn't just called 'fighting,' it's supposed to be best at fighting, so clearly the bard should be best at barding... Which begs the question... ... can bards wear barding? No? ...what if the bard is prancing along, making clip-clop noises with a pair of coconut shells? ...No? But if a bard can't wear barding, then how could a bard go out barding without barding, at all? And, if a bard were barding, would he ride a mount, or would the mount wear him? Since a mount wearing barding has a higher AC, that would fit the 5e bard's support function, as he's handing out an AC buff by riding the mount while barding, or as barding, functionally, either way. And there's nothing silly about having a better AC, now is there? So bards aren't silly. Arguing about bards on line, though, that can get pretty silly. [/QUOTE]

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