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<blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 5342108" data-attributes="member: 1129"><p>I have no problem with options. I just don't think WoTC does a good job of containing their own game system so that it remains internally consistant. I love games Like Hero, Mutants and Masterminds and GURPS in that all the options are essentially laid out in front of you from the get go and further books help clarify what exactly is possible with the system.</p><p></p><p>WoTC, both in 3rd and 4th, seems to go, "We need the class and level system or there would be anarchy!" and then go, "Well, let's add X.... well, let's add Y.... well, let's mess with..." and to be hoenst, half the time I don't think they're doing a good job or going back and errating the problems that it creates.</p><p></p><p>For example, several people here have pointed it out as deliberate power creep and others that the powers aren't that good and still others that these are only intended for Dark Sun so its not a problem. Lots of opinions, which is good, but even if I'm completly wrong, the other opinions aren't all agreeing with each other.</p><p></p><p>I'll be curious if we're going to see any more themes in Dragon or in the upcmoing books this year, and I could swear that themes were one of the ways that WoTC was mentioning for building characters in one of the Gen Con videos.</p><p></p><p>For me, the idea of themes are redundant. We've already got background feats and paragon classes and epic classes. This is going to be another venue where WoTC is going to start mining words to make up some stupid sounding crap I fear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeGKushner, post: 5342108, member: 1129"] I have no problem with options. I just don't think WoTC does a good job of containing their own game system so that it remains internally consistant. I love games Like Hero, Mutants and Masterminds and GURPS in that all the options are essentially laid out in front of you from the get go and further books help clarify what exactly is possible with the system. WoTC, both in 3rd and 4th, seems to go, "We need the class and level system or there would be anarchy!" and then go, "Well, let's add X.... well, let's add Y.... well, let's mess with..." and to be hoenst, half the time I don't think they're doing a good job or going back and errating the problems that it creates. For example, several people here have pointed it out as deliberate power creep and others that the powers aren't that good and still others that these are only intended for Dark Sun so its not a problem. Lots of opinions, which is good, but even if I'm completly wrong, the other opinions aren't all agreeing with each other. I'll be curious if we're going to see any more themes in Dragon or in the upcmoing books this year, and I could swear that themes were one of the ways that WoTC was mentioning for building characters in one of the Gen Con videos. For me, the idea of themes are redundant. We've already got background feats and paragon classes and epic classes. This is going to be another venue where WoTC is going to start mining words to make up some stupid sounding crap I fear. [/QUOTE]
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