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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8352105" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, OK, I don't think any of us are intent on going around calling each other liars. OTOH anytime you have a difference of opinion with someone which involves any objective facts you basically call into question the other person's understanding, veracity, or maybe willingness to be objective. Obviously that doesn't cover ALL differences of opinion though.So, yeah, sometimes maybe people do NOT know their own minds. They have not really examined their opinions. They had a reaction to something and they go with it, but maybe there's something deeper. PERSONALLY I don't think humans are rational or objective. Those are not particularly traits which work well in the real world surprisingly. This is not an attack on people, but it may be a truth about them which doesn't sit easily with any of us.I think he's just being thoughtful. Anyway, I'm not really sure we can say that novelty is any more valued today than in the past, at least the recent past. Clearly at some point our culture, and I think that means the culture of the 'globalized' world to an extent, has moved into a realm in which we can accept novelty. There was obviously a time when traditional values were supreme most everywhere and even creative activities were restricted to certain standardized forms, etc. Think of Chinese verse or landscape painting, where certain schools persisted across a dozen centuries or more, and work that fell outside of the recognized ones was usually rejected (though 100's of years later it might be recognized as establishing a new school too, or sometimes even in the artist's lifetime).So, we have a culture which does value novelty, or at least tolerate new forms and styles more than in the past. OTOH I'm not sure I see where traditional stories and creativity is exactly denigrated. Maybe sometimes it is outshone by things that claim to be 'new', but I think mostly it is still there, perhaps just not in the spotlight so much. Beyond that "there is nothing new under the Sun" may be an old adage, but it is a true one.</blockquote>

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