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<blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 4351841" data-attributes="member: 21169">Casters had to be nerfed. There was no problem that couldn't be solved by magic, making the non-caster classes pointless. Worst case scenario was having to wait 24 hours before you could solve a problem.It was acknowledged in 3e that battlefield control was the wizard's greatest ability. Controlling movement on the battlefield is still a big part of the 4e wizard's repertoire but it's not 100% control like the pre-4e Wall of Force. That's a good thing, magic should help but it shouldn't be an auto-win.In the Hold Monster capture situation you describe, I regard that as not very good encounter design. The problem is solved by a single spell. D&amp;D is supposed to be a team game, what's my barbarian contributing? Better if the monster was KO-ed using nonlethal damage, then everyone can contribute.Ghost Sound. 4e PHB, page 158.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doug McCrae, post: 4351841, member: 21169"] Casters had to be nerfed. There was no problem that couldn't be solved by magic, making the non-caster classes pointless. Worst case scenario was having to wait 24 hours before you could solve a problem. It was acknowledged in 3e that battlefield control was the wizard's greatest ability. Controlling movement on the battlefield is still a big part of the 4e wizard's repertoire but it's not 100% control like the pre-4e Wall of Force. That's a good thing, magic should help but it shouldn't be an auto-win. In the Hold Monster capture situation you describe, I regard that as not very good encounter design. The problem is solved by a single spell. D&D is supposed to be a team game, what's my barbarian contributing? Better if the monster was KO-ed using nonlethal damage, then everyone can contribute. Ghost Sound. 4e PHB, page 158. [/QUOTE]

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