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Anyone ever try a druid/sorcerer mystic theurge?
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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5733765" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>People complained about druids disproportionately because he was the best at putting the Fighter out of a job of the core casters, and that is usually the first thing to trigger people's senses of "broken!" The wizard could do tons of stuff that neither druid nor fighter could do that completely breaks the game, but because it's so different from the fighter's schtick and all exotic-like, the alarm bells aren't sounded as easily.</p><p></p><p>In any case, in 3E Druid/Wiz/Cleric were all about the same level of crazy powerful, sorcerer not far behind (and IMO with all their splat love, sorcs joined their ranks by the end of 3E).</p><p></p><p>In Pathfinder, Druid got a few buffs (Wildshape sizes basically come 2 levels early each, constant items meld and remain functional other than armor/shield, and...scythe proficiency...) but got super duper nerfed all over the place really hard (weaker companions + companion esily available to clerics anyway, massive massive MASSIVE wildshaping nerfs, Summon Nature's Ally was nerfed harder than Summon Monster, and more stuff...). On the other hand, wizards gained hp, some free "school powers," and the ability to cast "prohibited" schools' spells. And clerics got vastly buffed domain powers, free prof. with deity's weapon (countered by loss of heavy armor prof., I guess), and spell BUFFS (I couldn't believe it, but Divine Power is better now!) / less nerfings than wiz/sorc spells (compare PF Destruction to PF Finger of Death), and super crazy amounts of healing at 1st level. So, druid's still pretty good, but cleric and wizard leaped right past him in power, IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5733765, member: 35909"] People complained about druids disproportionately because he was the best at putting the Fighter out of a job of the core casters, and that is usually the first thing to trigger people's senses of "broken!" The wizard could do tons of stuff that neither druid nor fighter could do that completely breaks the game, but because it's so different from the fighter's schtick and all exotic-like, the alarm bells aren't sounded as easily. In any case, in 3E Druid/Wiz/Cleric were all about the same level of crazy powerful, sorcerer not far behind (and IMO with all their splat love, sorcs joined their ranks by the end of 3E). In Pathfinder, Druid got a few buffs (Wildshape sizes basically come 2 levels early each, constant items meld and remain functional other than armor/shield, and...scythe proficiency...) but got super duper nerfed all over the place really hard (weaker companions + companion esily available to clerics anyway, massive massive MASSIVE wildshaping nerfs, Summon Nature's Ally was nerfed harder than Summon Monster, and more stuff...). On the other hand, wizards gained hp, some free "school powers," and the ability to cast "prohibited" schools' spells. And clerics got vastly buffed domain powers, free prof. with deity's weapon (countered by loss of heavy armor prof., I guess), and spell BUFFS (I couldn't believe it, but Divine Power is better now!) / less nerfings than wiz/sorc spells (compare PF Destruction to PF Finger of Death), and super crazy amounts of healing at 1st level. So, druid's still pretty good, but cleric and wizard leaped right past him in power, IMO. [/QUOTE]
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