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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 4477281" data-attributes="member: 40398">Hiya, Mshea! I actually ran a couple of play tests with Big Red vs. five 30th level PCs; their stats are below. In the first play test the PCs were assumed to have spent all their action points and daily powers fighting their way to Big Red; in the second play test the PCs had everything. Both play tests ended with me getting bored 5-10 rounds into the fight and quitting. In the first play test it was clear that the PCs couldn't possibly win; in the second play test I can't say for sure but I'd still bet on Big Red. BR's attacks and defenses are so high that it usually hits any given PC (even either of my two defenders) while usually dodging any given PC attack (even my fighter's impressive +35 attack). So even if the PCs can succeed with their daily resources, it's a looong exercise in whittling slowly away at BR's hps with the occasional lucky hit.TSHuman Wizard 30 (Battle Mage Demigod)Str 12, Con 14, Dex 15, Int 28, Wis 24, Cha 13Possessions: Starleather Elven Battle Armor +6, Orb of Invasive Fortune +6, Scarab of Invulnerability +6, Magic Dagger +6, Potion of RecoveryAt-Will: Magic Missile, Ray of Frost, Scorching BurstEncounter: Confusion (168), Thunderclap (167), Force Volley (166), Forceful Retort (169)Daily: Legion’s Hold (168), Prismatic Spray (168), Closing Spell (169), Disintegrate (166)Utility: Divine Regeneration (175), Mass Fly (167), Displacement (165), Arcane Rejuvenation (169), Mirror Image (164), Dimension Door (162), Shield (161)Item: Elven Battle Armor (230), Orb of Invasive Fortune (238), Scarab (251)Heroic Feats: Action Surge, Alertness, Armor Proficiency (Leather), Improved Initiative, Human Perseverance, Quick Draw, ToughnessParagon Feats: Action Recovery, Devastating Critical, Great Fortitude, Improved Second Wind, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes, Spell FocusEpic Feats: Arcane Mastery, Blind-Fight, Epic Resurgence, Spell Accuracy, Triumphant AttackInitiative +21; Speed 6Intelligence Implement +30 (+9 Intelligence, +15 level, +6 enhancement)Dagger +25 (+1 Strength, +15 level, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)AC 44 (+9 Intelligence, +15 level, +4 armor, +6 enhancement)Fort 36 (+2 Constitution, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Ref 43 (+9 Intelligence, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Will 43 (+7 Wisdom, +1 race, +15 level, +2 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Saves +1HP 155; Bloodied 77; Surge 8/day (43 HP)Action Point: (+3 bonus to extra attack, +4 bonus to attacks until end of next turn and roll a save against each effect) or regain a daily spell Human Fighter 30 (Kensai Demigod)Str 28, Con 15, Dex 24, Int 13, Wis 14, Cha 12Possessions: Godplate Dwarven Armor +6, Vorpal Great Sword +6, Scarab of Invulnerability +6, Magic Longbow +6, Potion of RecoveryAt-Will: Cleave, Reaping Strike, Sure StrikeEncounter: Adamantine Strike (85), Fangs of Steel (84), Mountain Breaking Blow (83), Masterstroke (87)Daily: No Mercy (86), Supremacy of Steel (85), Weaponsoul Dance (87), Reaving Strike (84)Utility: Divine Regeneration (175), Act of Desperation (84), Iron Warrior (82), Ultimate Parry (87), Into the Fray (81), Unbreakable (80), Get Over Here (78)Item: Dwarven Armor (229), Vorpal Weapon (236), Scarab (251)Heroic Feats: Action Surge, Alertness, Armor (Plate), Human Perseverance, Quick Draw, Toughness, Weapon FocusParagon Feats: Action Recovery, Armor (Plate), Devastating Critical, Fleet-Footed, Great Fortitude, Heavy Blade Opportunity, Improved Second Wind, Iron Will, Lightning ReflexesEpic Feats: Blind-Fight, Epic Resurgence, Heavy Blade Mastery, Triumphant AttackInitiative +24; Speed 6Great Sword +35 (+9 Strength, +15 level, +1 class, +1 paragon, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)Longbow +30 (+7 Dexterity, +15 level, +2 weapon, +6 enhancement)AC 46 (+15 level, +1 feat, +14 armor, +6 enhancement)Fort 45 (+9 Strength, +1 race, +15 level, +2 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Ref 41 (+7 Dexterity, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Will 36 (+2 Wisdom, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Saves +1HP 219; Bloodied 109; Surge 11/day (59 HP)Action Point: (+3 to extra attack and roll a save against each effect) or reroll one roll Human Rogue 30 (Shadow Assassin Demigod)Str 24, Con 14, Dex 28, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 15Possessions: Starleather Shadowflow Armor +6, Duelist’s Dagger +6, Scarab of Invulnerability +6, Magic Sling +6, Potion of RecoveryAt-Will: Deft Strike, Piercing Strike, Riposte StrikeEncounter: Hurricane of Blood (126), Scorpion Strike (125), Dragon Tail Strike (124), Killer’s Eye (128)Daily: Assassin’s Point (126), Ghost on the Wind (125), Final Blow (128), Flying Foe (124)Utility: Divine Regeneration (175), Dazzling Acrobatics (125), Hide in Plain Sight (123), Bad Idea Friend (128), Shadow Stride (122), Nimble Climb (120), Tumble (119)Item: Shadowflow Armor (231), Duelist’s Weapon (234), Scarab (251)Heroic Feats: Action Surge, Alertness, Backstabber, Human Perseverance, Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, ToughnessParagon Feats: Action Recovery, Devastating Critical, Great Fortitude, Improved Second Wind, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes, Secret Stride, Seize the MomentEpic Feats: Blind-Fight, Epic Resurgence, Light Blade Mastery, Triumphant Attack, Unfettered StrideInitiative +28; Speed 6Dexterity Dagger +34 (+9 Dexterity, +15 level, +1 class, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)Strength Dagger +32 (+7 Dexterity, +15 level, +1 class, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)Sling +32 (+9 Dexterity, +15 level, +2 weapon, +6 enhancement)AC 44 (+9 Dexterity, +15 level, +4 armor, +6 enhancement)Fort 41 (+7 Strength, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Ref 45 (+9 Dexterity, +1 race, +15 level, +2 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Will 36 (+2 Charisma, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Saves +1HP 186; Bloodied 93; Surge 8/day (51 HP)Action Point: (+3 to extra attack, +4 to attacks until end of next turn and roll a save against each effect) Human Warlord 30 (Battle Captain Demigod)Str 28, Con 15, Dex 12, Int 24, Wis 14, Cha 13Possessions: Elderhide Bloodcut Armor +6, Vorpal Great Sword +6, Scarab of Invulnerability +6, Magic Crossbow +6, Potion of RecoverySpecialAllies gain within 10 squares gain a +7 initiative bonusAllies within 10 squares gain a +2 bonus to attack rolls during first round of combatAllies healed by Inspiring Word gain a +7 power bonus to attack rolls and speed until end of your next turnAllies gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls and a +7 damage bonus to action point attacksAt-Will: Commander’s Strike, Viper’s Strike, Wolf Pack TacticsEncounter: Inspiring Word (145), Chimera Battlestrike (152), Sudden Strike (151), Thunderous Fury (150), Force Retreat (153)Daily: Defy Death (152), White Raven’s Call (152), Cunning Flurry (154), Windmill of Doom (151)Utility: Divine Regeneration (175), Own the Battlefield (151), Warlord’s Banner (150), Bolt of Genius (154), Defensive Rally (149), Guide the Charge (147), Aid the Injured (146)Item: Bloodcut Armor (227), Vorpal Weapon (236), Scarab (251)Heroic Feats: Action Surge, Alertness, Human Perseverance, Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Tactical Assault, Toughness, Weapon FocusParagon Feats: Action Recovery, Armor Specialization (Hide), Combat Commander, Devastating Critical, Great Fortitude, Improved Second Wind, Iron Will, Lightning ReflexesEpic Feats: Blind-Fight, Epic Resurgence, Heavy Blade Mastery, Triumphant AttackInitiative +20; Speed 6Great Sword +33 (+9 Strength, +15 level, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)Crossbow +24 (+1 Dexterity, +15 level, +2 weapon, +6 enhancement)AC 44 (+7 Intelligence, +15 level, +5 armor, +1 feat, +6 enhancement)Fort 44 (+9 Strength, +1 race, +15 level, +1 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Ref 41 (+7 Intelligence, +1 race, +15 level, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Will 37 (+2 Wisdom, +1 race, +15 level, +1 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Saves +1HP 187; Bloodied 93; Surge 9/day (51 HP)Action Point: (+3 to extra attack and roll a save against each effect) Human Paladin 30 (Hospitaler Demigod)Str 24, Con 15, Dex 12, Int 13, Wis 14, Cha 28Possessions: Godplate Dwarven Armor +6, Holy Avenger Great Sword +6, Scarab of Invulnerability +6, Magic Crossbow +6, Potion of RecoveryAt-Will: Divine Challenge (91), Lay on Hands (91), Bolstering Strike (92), Enfeebling Strike (92), Valiant Strike (92)Encounter: Divine Mettle (91), Divine Strength (91), Deific Vengeance (99), Here Waits Thy Doom (98), Enervating Smite (96), Warding Blow (101)Daily: Even Hand of Justice (99), To the Nine Hells with You (98), Life-Giving Smite (102), Corona of Blinding Radiance (97)Utility: Divine Regeneration (175), United in Faith (98), Death Ward (96), Healing Font (102), Turn the Tide (95), Divine Bodyguard (94), Martyr’s Blessing (146)Item: Dwarven Armor (229), Holy Avenger (234), Scarab (251)Heroic Feats: Action Surge, Alertness, Healing Hands, Human Perseverance, Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Toughness, Weapon FocusParagon Feats: Action Recovery, Armor Specialization (Plate), Devastating Critical, Fleet-Footed, Great Fortitude, Improved Second Wind, Iron Will, Lightning ReflexesEpic Feats: Blind-Fight, Epic Resurgence, Heavy Blade Mastery, Triumphant AttackInitiative +20; Speed 6Charisma Great Sword +33 (+9 Charisma , +15 level, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)Charisma Implement +30 (+9 Charisma , +15 level, +6 enhancement)Strength Great Sword +31 (+7 Strength, +15 level, +3 weapon, +6 enhancement)Crossbow +24 (+1 Dexterity, +15 level, +2 weapon, +6 enhancement)AC 46 (+15 level, +14 armor, +1 feat, +6 enhancement)Fort 42 (+7 Strength, +1 race, +15 level, +1 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Ref 36 (+1 Dexterity, +1 race, +15 level, +1 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Will 44 (+9 Charisma, +1 race, +15 level, +1 class, +2 feat, +6 enhancement)Saves +1HP 219; Bloodied 109; Surge 12/day (59 HP)Action Point: (+3 to extra attack and allies within 5 squares gain 2 HP)</blockquote>

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