Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Anyone got any good house ruled crit system?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Gruns" data-source="post: 4581163" data-attributes="member: 10312"><p><strong>Let it be.</strong></p><p></p><p>I don't see why this is something that needs changed at all. Once you get a magic weapon with some plusses to it, and possibly more special crit effects, crits are still pretty nice. And just because it's max damage as opposed to double damage, the crits in 4E still come close to the damage of crits 3.5 since there is no confirmation roll.</p><p></p><p>Sample 3.5 crit: Basic +2 Longsword with 18 Strength. We're just going to have to figure that you hit about 50% of the time in 3.5, even though we know this isn't as true as it is in 4E.</p><p>Take 4 samples of the 3.5 crit...</p><p>1) Confirmed max damage= 28 damage.</p><p>2) Confirmed min damage= 14 damage.</p><p>3) Unconfirmed max damage= 14 damage.</p><p>4) Unconfirmed min damage= 7 damage.</p><p>So the average "Natural 20" from 3.5 here is about 63/4 or 15.75 damage.</p><p></p><p>And a sample crit from 4E with a basic 1[W] power, 18 Str and plain vanilla +2 Longsword.</p><p>1) Max damage= 26 damage</p><p>2) Min damage= 16 damage</p><p>The average here is actually 42/2 or 21 damage.</p><p>As you move on to higher level magic items with more plusses, and especially when you move onto powers with more [W]'s, the effects get even better in 4E's favor.</p><p></p><p>What does this all mean? Not much since overall the damage dealt in 4E seems to be greater. I suppose if you wanted to, you could do a comparison of how much better a crit is when compared to a regular hit from the same edition, but there are far too many variables to take into account for the 4E side of the equation. In the end, I say just leave the crits as they are. The lack of confirmation roll adds quite a bit to their power.</p><p>Later!</p><p>Gruns</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gruns, post: 4581163, member: 10312"] [b]Let it be.[/b] I don't see why this is something that needs changed at all. Once you get a magic weapon with some plusses to it, and possibly more special crit effects, crits are still pretty nice. And just because it's max damage as opposed to double damage, the crits in 4E still come close to the damage of crits 3.5 since there is no confirmation roll. Sample 3.5 crit: Basic +2 Longsword with 18 Strength. We're just going to have to figure that you hit about 50% of the time in 3.5, even though we know this isn't as true as it is in 4E. Take 4 samples of the 3.5 crit... 1) Confirmed max damage= 28 damage. 2) Confirmed min damage= 14 damage. 3) Unconfirmed max damage= 14 damage. 4) Unconfirmed min damage= 7 damage. So the average "Natural 20" from 3.5 here is about 63/4 or 15.75 damage. And a sample crit from 4E with a basic 1[W] power, 18 Str and plain vanilla +2 Longsword. 1) Max damage= 26 damage 2) Min damage= 16 damage The average here is actually 42/2 or 21 damage. As you move on to higher level magic items with more plusses, and especially when you move onto powers with more [W]'s, the effects get even better in 4E's favor. What does this all mean? Not much since overall the damage dealt in 4E seems to be greater. I suppose if you wanted to, you could do a comparison of how much better a crit is when compared to a regular hit from the same edition, but there are far too many variables to take into account for the 4E side of the equation. In the end, I say just leave the crits as they are. The lack of confirmation roll adds quite a bit to their power. Later! Gruns [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Anyone got any good house ruled crit system?
Top